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re: For those who don't think underclassmen should leave
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:26 am to Buda
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:26 am to Buda
I've said it a 1000 times.
I'm selfish.
I care about LSU winning football games.
That's it.
Don't give a shite about NFLSU.
If it's a no brainer, I get it.
KAlex? Really dude liable not even get drafted.
These jrs leaving is as big as problem as any we have for the "decline".
Things seemed to work out fine for LCollins and he's a higher potential than any tiger player on the team.
And furthermore you boys "happy and excited" about these guys leaving early should tone it down, it doesn't make you a better fan.
Contrary to popular belief.
I'm selfish.
I care about LSU winning football games.
That's it.
Don't give a shite about NFLSU.
If it's a no brainer, I get it.
KAlex? Really dude liable not even get drafted.
These jrs leaving is as big as problem as any we have for the "decline".
Things seemed to work out fine for LCollins and he's a higher potential than any tiger player on the team.
And furthermore you boys "happy and excited" about these guys leaving early should tone it down, it doesn't make you a better fan.
Contrary to popular belief.
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Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:27 am to Choupique19
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NorthshoreTiger76 What Are Your Thoughts on This Scenario... 8-5 with another loss to Bama should get him canned
LSU has guys leave early to not get drafted AT ALL and then get cut in camp and are out of football after trying to make a roster for 2-3 years.
There is a sickness in the LSU football program. Miles promises every 4 star that he will be in the NFL in 3 years, apparently, and the guy believes it from Day One and no matter what, has no plan to stay, even if he isn't that good.
I think that this is a relatively new strategy for Miles (as in post-2008) and I think that he employed it to compete with Saban. It has now backfired in raising the expectations of the kids he recruits beyond reasonable levels.
The whole DLineU and DBU and NFLU stuff ends up being bad for LSU in the long run as our stellar 28-11 record over the past 3 years shows.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:27 am to DBU
Some should go some should not. Not everyone gets drafted or make it. If he gets a bad draft grade then it would be in his best interest to improve another year at school. Leaving early does not mean you will get paid well. Hell you may not make the cut and then you college days are done. Not a lot go early, don't make the cut and build up to return another avenue. It all comes down to where their talent level is at.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:28 am to Buda
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People keep saying they cannot understand why a junior or 3Y Sophomore would leave early
Not many people say they cannot understand this. What most say is their timing is not that great. Another year would increase their draft position. Another year of learning the game would have helped them get a bigger paycheck.
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Suppose you are at LSU majoring in engineering. And you are such a good engineer that, in the middle of your junior year, the best engineering company in the world, or NASA, or some other unbelievable engineering organization says to you: "we want to hire you now - you don't need to finish your degree. We're gonna pay you a million dollars per year for a 3-year contract and give you half a million signing bonus. Sure you may be a better engineer if you stay another year and graduate, but we are ready to pay you now. And oh, by the way, you're going to be working on your dream job."
Your example is flawed in that not all who are drafted end up with that kind of money. Also, many that declare for the draft don't even get drafted and are then out of an education and out of an NFL career.
Those that are ready to go, absolutely, go and make the money. Come back one day and get your degree. But too many declare because someone put in their ear that they are going to go as a high draft pick and make millions when they end up as UDFA, practice squad, etc. They end up with nothing.
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For you to suggest that a kid should stay at LSU when he can go do what he dreams of and make a lot of $ doing it is just crazy. You really can't blame them for leaving.
For me or anyone else to suggest it is not crazy, it is an opinion. For you to suggest that all underclassman who leave early make millions is absolutely crazy. See how that works.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:29 am to Buda
Ask Marcus Lattimore.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:30 am to Buda
DP
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 11:36 am
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:34 am to stho381
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And you are such a good engineer that, in the middle of your junior year
You are not an engineer if you don't finish school and get your degree.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:36 am to TrueTiger
Marcus Lattimore was a first team All SEC selection, as well as a Second team All America section.
What are Kwon's awards?
What are Kwon's awards?
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:39 am to ApexTiger
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It's been suggested that many of our guys were struggling in school and needed to move on
Very good point. If the young man has no interest in continuing efforts at studying and making grades, then, leaving school makes sense regardless of draft projections.
BUT, show me a kid who has no interest in doing enough to make grades and I'll show you a kid who may not be a hard worker . . . at anything in life.
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 11:40 am
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:42 am to Buda
quote:Except for one minor detail: No NFL teams are saying that to any of our juniors.
Suppose you are at LSU majoring in engineering. And you are such a good engineer that, in the middle of your junior year, the best engineering company in the world, or NASA, or some other unbelievable engineering organization says to you: "we want to hire you now - you don't need to finish your degree. We're gonna pay you a million dollars per year for a 3-year contract and give you half a million signing bonus. Sure you may be a better engineer if you stay another year and graduate, but we are ready to pay you now. And oh, by the way, you're going to be working on your dream job."
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:45 am to Buda
Not a good comparison. An engineering company would never hire a person as an engineer without the degree. Maybe they help you finish the degree, but you must have the degree. It is a matter of having the qualifications which is a legal issue.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:49 am to kbmaverick
It's all about economics and return on investment. Run the numbers and you will see.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:54 am to Buda
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We're gonna pay you a million dollars per year for a 3-year contract and give you half a million signing bonus.
Wrong premise. If all the kids that leave early get paid big bucks, you cannot argue against it. Unfortunately, anyone that is drafted after third round or is an UFA, life is not as rosy.
If a company pays an engineer/programmer (even if they leave early), no one would be against it. Many a silicon valley story has guys that have dropped out to join a company or start one. The question is about an engineer who thinks he is a big deal, but the companies do not think so.
You make the wrong inference.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:55 am to Buda
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you to suggest that a kid should stay at LSU when he can go do what he dreams of and make a lot of $ doing it is just crazy. You really can't blame them for leaving
I see the sell.
Now think of it like this:
Kid leaves for 1 million 3 year deal, unlike the regular world a kids pro football career can be over in a blink of an eye. You're not going to have a career ending injury in engineering (unless you're an A&M grad). 1 million dollars isn't what it used to be, so is a prospect better off putting in one more year to better his draft stock? I say yes because 5 years 20 million is worth it.
Hell, you can get an insurance policy that will pay more in case of an career ending injury than 1 million.
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