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re: For those that want Les Miles fired...
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:50 pm to magildachunks
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:50 pm to magildachunks
NOBODY IS CALLING FOR MILES TO BE FIRED!
But there is speculation that RR will be fired and Les would definitely be on their short list.
But there is speculation that RR will be fired and Les would definitely be on their short list.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:53 pm to drizztiger
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Commenting on Les Miles leaving for Michigan is within possibility as well. Thought police need to learn to think for themselves.
I thought the money situation would keep RR at Mich for at least one more year...and actually think it's two. Is there real talk of RR being canned this season?
Posted on 11/9/09 at 10:02 pm to jlc05
Please. Miles needed help from OU and needed Stanford to block USC's PAT in 2007 for his championship. If either of those games went any differently, we'd be talking about the glory days of the 2007 Sugar Bowl. I think the Miles supporters would be cut in half in that case.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 10:04 pm to sheek
The LSU/Miles situation reminds me a lot of Nebraska when Solich took over for Tom Osborne (who in the first 30 or so years at NU didn't win an NC, but finally wins two at the end of his career... which is another point altogether). Anyway, Solich was consistently good, but was never fully accepted as an adequate successor to Osborne.
Solich's first season: 9-4 (fans grumble)
2nd year: 12-1
3rd year: 10-2
4th year: 11-2
5th year: 7-7 (and 3-5 in conference... uh oh! sound familiar)
6th year: 9-3 (maybe he is turning it around and last year was an aberration... but no, he is fired)
Enter big name NFL coach Bill Callahan who had the Raiders in the Superbowl a couple years before. I think most football fans know how that turned out for Nebraska, who is still struggling to get back to the upper echelon.
So, for those short-sighted, impatient fans who are clamoring to can Miles and bring in Gruden, or whoever, be careful what you wish for.
I am not saying Miles is without flaws (I felt Saban had plenty of flaws when he was at LSU, too, fwiw), but I am saying that a hasty decision by the LSU administration after what, in reality, is a good season so far could have much more dire consequences with regards to the future of the program.
Miles may or may not be the long term answer-- but he is here and, until the program is undeniably declining, second guessing his every move and trying to magnify every flaw is an exercise in misery.
Here's to hoping that the team learns from it's mistakes, the younger players continue to develop and play well down the stretch

Solich's first season: 9-4 (fans grumble)
2nd year: 12-1
3rd year: 10-2
4th year: 11-2
5th year: 7-7 (and 3-5 in conference... uh oh! sound familiar)
6th year: 9-3 (maybe he is turning it around and last year was an aberration... but no, he is fired)
Enter big name NFL coach Bill Callahan who had the Raiders in the Superbowl a couple years before. I think most football fans know how that turned out for Nebraska, who is still struggling to get back to the upper echelon.
So, for those short-sighted, impatient fans who are clamoring to can Miles and bring in Gruden, or whoever, be careful what you wish for.
I am not saying Miles is without flaws (I felt Saban had plenty of flaws when he was at LSU, too, fwiw), but I am saying that a hasty decision by the LSU administration after what, in reality, is a good season so far could have much more dire consequences with regards to the future of the program.
Miles may or may not be the long term answer-- but he is here and, until the program is undeniably declining, second guessing his every move and trying to magnify every flaw is an exercise in misery.
Here's to hoping that the team learns from it's mistakes, the younger players continue to develop and play well down the stretch


Posted on 11/9/09 at 10:07 pm to magildachunks
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Reminds me of this gem, "We will not let Nebraska slip into Mediocrity."
Right after a 9-2 season. What happened to those geniuses?
I was typing too slow tonight to see your reply, but great minds think alike

Posted on 11/9/09 at 10:11 pm to specs1
quote:
But there is speculation that RR will be fired and Les would definitely be on their short list.
I don't think they'll pay him what he's making at LSU.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 10:12 pm to sheek
LOL,
WOW, you guys are the same miles' bashers who wanted him to be fired or let go to michigan after the arkansas loss in 07.
then, miles wins seccg, then w/ 2 losses gets to go to n.c. and BEATS ohio.
you are the same bashers who believe that saban screwed lsu and you really want him back. how many times have you let your wives come back after spending the nite out w/ friends?
you are the same bashers who have no new coach lined up, b/c there aren't any, and saban and meyers don't want lsu bashers as fans. you are sooo damn smart that you can type w/ one hand while the other does a stroke on your crotch.
you have masturbated yourself to insanity. you have no answers, just criticism. you bashers are loosers.
i'm not making this shite up, take an introductory psychology class, you bashers come from very disfuntional families who BASHED you from infancy till now.
how ya like them apples?
WOW, you guys are the same miles' bashers who wanted him to be fired or let go to michigan after the arkansas loss in 07.
then, miles wins seccg, then w/ 2 losses gets to go to n.c. and BEATS ohio.
you are the same bashers who believe that saban screwed lsu and you really want him back. how many times have you let your wives come back after spending the nite out w/ friends?
you are the same bashers who have no new coach lined up, b/c there aren't any, and saban and meyers don't want lsu bashers as fans. you are sooo damn smart that you can type w/ one hand while the other does a stroke on your crotch.
you have masturbated yourself to insanity. you have no answers, just criticism. you bashers are loosers.
i'm not making this shite up, take an introductory psychology class, you bashers come from very disfuntional families who BASHED you from infancy till now.
how ya like them apples?
Posted on 11/9/09 at 10:21 pm to specs1
quote:The delusion from specs1 continues.
Probably one who is sporting a superbowl ring.

Posted on 11/9/09 at 10:24 pm to BamaNation
How do you know when it's time to start looking for another coach? When opposing teams fans come on your board and tell you what a great job your current coach is doing!
We need Kelly from Cincinnati and it's not even close.
We need Kelly from Cincinnati and it's not even close.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 10:37 pm to Duzz
What's with all the Stockholm Syndromers?
The world has changed, the SEC and LSU are elite platforms, both really always have been, just that LSU went to sleep at times along the way, mostly due to it's powers-that-be, and their poor, cheap, and oft aloof decisions.
Yes, Saban and Miles are good HCs, yes Saban was the right guy to rebuild LSU. Yes, Miles has been excellent in keeping LSU rolling along, and a fine character family guy face for the program, that has kept the recruiting at the pinnacles.
But, both were twenty-something-and-twenty-something HCs at 2nd-in-state-U, where both couldn't win a bowl game to save their lives, for the most part, despite being hailed for taking down Big U once in a while for state bragging rights. Or being hyped for coaching up and improving ole 2nd-In-State's recruiting base.
Get it through your heads once and for all..LSU MADE SABAN & MILES, AS MUCH AS THEY MADE LSU..
Thus, Brian Kelly, Chris Petersen, etc..could keep LSU rolling along. And these two in particular imho, may have what it takes to whip Saban and Bama's @ss habitually?
Hell, I'd dare say that Strong, Sarkisian, Sumlin, Patterson, Whittingham, Mendenhall, TT, Muschamp, etc..could all keep the wheels gliding down the tracks. If not a few maybe being slight disappointments in habitually finishing second to Saban and Bama, as their cardinal sin as LSU HC, at worst.
Something that may become a problem for Miles vs Saban in coming years anyway? aka Cholly Mac vs Bear Part Deux?
The world has changed, the SEC and LSU are elite platforms, both really always have been, just that LSU went to sleep at times along the way, mostly due to it's powers-that-be, and their poor, cheap, and oft aloof decisions.
Yes, Saban and Miles are good HCs, yes Saban was the right guy to rebuild LSU. Yes, Miles has been excellent in keeping LSU rolling along, and a fine character family guy face for the program, that has kept the recruiting at the pinnacles.
But, both were twenty-something-and-twenty-something HCs at 2nd-in-state-U, where both couldn't win a bowl game to save their lives, for the most part, despite being hailed for taking down Big U once in a while for state bragging rights. Or being hyped for coaching up and improving ole 2nd-In-State's recruiting base.
Get it through your heads once and for all..LSU MADE SABAN & MILES, AS MUCH AS THEY MADE LSU..
Thus, Brian Kelly, Chris Petersen, etc..could keep LSU rolling along. And these two in particular imho, may have what it takes to whip Saban and Bama's @ss habitually?
Hell, I'd dare say that Strong, Sarkisian, Sumlin, Patterson, Whittingham, Mendenhall, TT, Muschamp, etc..could all keep the wheels gliding down the tracks. If not a few maybe being slight disappointments in habitually finishing second to Saban and Bama, as their cardinal sin as LSU HC, at worst.
Something that may become a problem for Miles vs Saban in coming years anyway? aka Cholly Mac vs Bear Part Deux?
This post was edited on 11/9/09 at 10:45 pm
Posted on 11/9/09 at 10:52 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
If you look at Michigan's schedule, you will see that they will lose 7 of 8 games by season's end. They will win only 1 game in the Big 10. The money people at the Big House is gonna be screaming for heads to roll.
Will they fire RR? I don't know. But the fire will be hot this December and Miles will be one of the main topics of conversation.
I am in no way calling for Miles to be fired. I'm just saying, if you look at Michigan's troubles, it is not unrealistic to see the writing on the wall.
Heck, Miles gave it thought during the Championship Season. Why not now?
Me, look at Jack Del Rio. Dudes on the hot seat at Jacksonville. Great character guy. Disciplinarian with a capital D.
I'm just sayin' never know
Will they fire RR? I don't know. But the fire will be hot this December and Miles will be one of the main topics of conversation.
I am in no way calling for Miles to be fired. I'm just saying, if you look at Michigan's troubles, it is not unrealistic to see the writing on the wall.
Heck, Miles gave it thought during the Championship Season. Why not now?
Me, look at Jack Del Rio. Dudes on the hot seat at Jacksonville. Great character guy. Disciplinarian with a capital D.
I'm just sayin' never know
Posted on 11/9/09 at 11:02 pm to mrbayoublu
Whatever was rolling around Skip's brain when he courted Del Rio, isn't on LSU's radar today. I wasn't for JDR for LSU HC then, and definitely not now.
LSU via Miles BCS Title, 2nd in a decade via a 2nd HC, and the ten win seasons, has only further cemented LSU as an elite program. The facility upgrades, academic center, etc..
Hiring LSU's next HC, if and when, should LSU be performing par to it's current decade results, and with it's two previous HCs making at or near the top of NCAA pay scales, should only make LSU that much more attractive to prospective HCs than the previous two times the job was opened over the last decade.
I don't know that if I made a serious list of potential LSU HC hires, that JDR would make the top thirty. And he was somewhere around 8 to 12 on my list last time. Time and stocks change!
Hell no to Del Rio.
Brian Kelly or Chris Petersen by far..then the fallback plans start.
LSU via Miles BCS Title, 2nd in a decade via a 2nd HC, and the ten win seasons, has only further cemented LSU as an elite program. The facility upgrades, academic center, etc..
Hiring LSU's next HC, if and when, should LSU be performing par to it's current decade results, and with it's two previous HCs making at or near the top of NCAA pay scales, should only make LSU that much more attractive to prospective HCs than the previous two times the job was opened over the last decade.
I don't know that if I made a serious list of potential LSU HC hires, that JDR would make the top thirty. And he was somewhere around 8 to 12 on my list last time. Time and stocks change!
Hell no to Del Rio.
Brian Kelly or Chris Petersen by far..then the fallback plans start.
This post was edited on 11/9/09 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 11/9/09 at 11:36 pm to Mmorsey
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You have got to be the most ignorant person on this site. congrats
word to that
Posted on 11/9/09 at 11:42 pm to JawjaTigah
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This is the absolutely most frustrating fact of the day. If this man could really coach, or hire a staff that could coach and develop the talent LSU has on the team (as well as Les recruits), LSU would be THE dynasty team of the decade.
this
Posted on 11/9/09 at 11:46 pm to Mmorsey
quote:
You have got to be the most ignorant person on this site. congrats
No way. I saw some posts earlier that were really bad. Pretty sure that title goes to Mmorsey.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 11:58 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
Someone who makes meaningful adjustments and has teams that do not commit 16 penalties in a hard fought contest.
Maybe Les Miles will grow into that role.
Maybe Les Miles will grow into that role.
Posted on 11/10/09 at 12:03 am to TheRoarRestoredInBR
I think a Bob Stoops goes ahead of your short list since Defense is said to win championships. (and since this is all a hypo anyway)
Posted on 11/10/09 at 12:10 am to MoreOrLes
I realize that some are going to think that this is conjecture, but the thing that worries me is since LM didn't standup for his team, and doesn't fight for them in person (he is more like a cheerleader), they may bail on him again. Also, the recruiting will get rather scarry. Just another spin on that bottle...

Posted on 11/10/09 at 12:11 am to MoreOrLes
Well, hell, if were courting Big Game Bob, let's also call Meyer, Saban, Brown, Carroll, Tressell, Belichick, Dungy, Coughlin, Tomlin, etc..
They have hardware in-tow too. And if LSU can just snatch OU's HC, we can make a run with 4M on all the rest, many of whom are surely underpaid in contrast.
They have hardware in-tow too. And if LSU can just snatch OU's HC, we can make a run with 4M on all the rest, many of whom are surely underpaid in contrast.
Posted on 11/10/09 at 12:18 am to TheRoarRestoredInBR
Ive' been waiting for you to say exactly this. When bama bribed $abun they upped the ante on all of College Football. All im saying is if you follow their same criteria Stoops would be a logical choice.
His program has had unfortunate Mishaps/Like$abun at Miami the timing does work out better. And why not LSU is our HC job not very attractive. Shitte, bama thought theirs was and that place is/was a shittehole.
His program has had unfortunate Mishaps/Like$abun at Miami the timing does work out better. And why not LSU is our HC job not very attractive. Shitte, bama thought theirs was and that place is/was a shittehole.
This post was edited on 11/10/09 at 12:19 am
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