re: For the "we're poorly coached" crowd............

Then they need to smarter recruiters...something has to give or else this becomes a circular argument

Someone calling out Charles for not knowing football is pretty funny. It’s irony on a base level, but I like it.

Anyway, I think the real problem here is line play. I’m a huge believer in line play and when the lines break down, it makes everything look worse than it is. The defensive line IS getting in the backfield and getting pressure, they just can’t make tackles for some reason. I’m not too worried long term if they can fix that, which is a fixable problem.

The o-line, OTOH, is a huge concern. If you can’t block, you can’t do anything. Watching the games over, it’s not just one thing, it seems that something goes wrong on almost every play, but it’s always something different. Players know their assignments, it just takes one guy to blow it. And it’s usually a different guy. I don’t get it.

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I have never thought the Les Miles Tigers looked well coached, but I'm not trying to convince anybody of that.
Here's what we all know: If Les can't make these kids perform closer to their potential week in and week out, then he's going to lose his job.
One other thing: Recruiting is going to get a lot more difficult if he doesn't start having open competitions for playing time. This "wait your turn" system was easier to sell when the team was winning. If they continue to not use Shep and we lose 4 or 5 games this year, what is somebody like Lache or the next Russell Shepard supposed to think? These kids aren't stupid and I promise you they are not buying the "doesn't know the playbook" crap the staff always puts out there.

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I couldn't agree more. Kids like Russell Shepard want to play and play now. I use Trindon Holiday as a perfect example of this. If this guy went to Florida, or Ole Miss, Arkansas, etc, I guarantee you he would be on the field a shite load more than he is now. The same looks to be happening with Russell Shepard. Why not get him on the field as a decoy, and get experience that way as well. He could survey the defense from the RB, WR, slot positions as well. If kids like that don't get enough playing time, other recruits will being to see that and look elsewhere. Especially when a team is struggling.

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Im sorry that the truth hurts so bad. It is disappointing, but it seems you take it very harsh.
It will get better don't worry.
This is an excellent time for you to become a missing person.

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Hey, nutsack, you're the one we'd all like to see become a missing person. And, you need not tell me what to expect, I know worlds more than you do on the topic.

I like our coaches but I have been disappointed in some of the play calling. Coach Chavis for the most part is making improvements. Most of the big plays resulted from poor tackling, the players were in position to make the plays but failed to tackle. I do see certain linebackers misreading plays and making decisions which opens up holes. But the main thing that I see as a problem on both sides of the ball is inexperience. Jordan is learning but he is limited in throwing accurately down the field. With better throws, even to the backs coming out of the back field, the plays would result in more yardage. Until Jordan improves his down field passing the coaches aren't going to call plays that could result in interceptions. If they were calling the same plays as last year, Jordans numbers could look like Lees. You cannot coach experience, things should improve as our quarterback gets more experience and confidance.

The Lesticles need to drop again

I think that the coaches are doing fairly well but that a lot of our players are either too young and inexperienced or not really as good as we hoped.
But I have some concerns that the no huddle is helping more than it hurts. Seems to limit the time available to audible and seems to have the line in a crouch for a long time - could that affect timing of the line play?

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But I have some concerns that the no huddle is helping more than it hurts. Seems to limit the time available to audible and seems to have the line in a crouch for a long time - could that affect timing of the line play?

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I think you mean that its hurting more than helping. I absolutely agree, and I think a lot of others do too.

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I wonder if a no-huddle offense run in this manner impedes the o-linemen's aggressiveness. Picture a team huddling up, yelling "break" and running up to the line of scrimmage. Those linemen are ready to explode out of their stances and knock the d-line back. However, I think they lose some of that momentum by squatting down (these guys are 300+ lbs. after all) for 20 seconds, and then trying to fire off. Thoughts?

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Agree 100%

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I think they lose some of that momentum by squatting down (these guys are 300+ lbs. after all) for 20 seconds, and then trying to fire off. Thoughts?

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i agree with this......leave those guys in a stance for too long and it fatigues