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Posted on 4/22/09 at 1:07 pm to TigerNlc
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It wouldn't have got that far if we stop them in overtime on 4th and 10 with one of the worst Qb's under center in the SEC bud
He actually played pretty well against Ark all things considered, but if some of you tards are going to attribute losing to top 10 teams on the road to JR, you bet I'll do the same for Flynn (minus the top 10 part, of course, since 07 LSU lost to scrubs).
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Look how many points the defense gave up in 2006 and 2007.
Each team outscored their opponents by 20 points. While LSU 06 gave up 40 yards less a game, LSU 07 gained 30 more yards a game and scored almost a TD more per game.
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They gave up less even against "greater" competition like you said.
That's because 06 was a better team, most of which is due to the QB. A lot of games the 07 team played in are inflated statistically because LSU jumped out early and got complacent (i.e. Ole Miss, Ohio St.)
Posted on 4/22/09 at 1:08 pm to TigerNlc
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Its too much fun trying to get under these guys skin. I think they would take a load from JR if the chance was given to them.
Taking a load from JR < taking it up the arse from Flynn IMO FWIW GTFO FYI
Posted on 4/22/09 at 1:12 pm to AlexLSU
Ok in the grand scheme of life, does it matter who is better?
I mean hell JR was the best physical freak of a QB LSU ever had and probably ever will have...
Flynn won a NC
I would call it a wash...
If you wanna get serious Josh Booty would be the best QB LSU ever had, just some bad coaching.
I mean hell JR was the best physical freak of a QB LSU ever had and probably ever will have...
Flynn won a NC
I would call it a wash...
If you wanna get serious Josh Booty would be the best QB LSU ever had, just some bad coaching.
Posted on 4/22/09 at 1:19 pm to AlexLSU
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That's because 06 was a better team, most of which is due to the QB. A lot of games the 07 team played in are inflated statistically because LSU jumped out early and got complacent (i.e. Ole Miss, Ohio St.)
I agree with you the 06 was better but it wasn't from the QB position but I'll give you that. Say it was somewhat better from the QB position it still wasn't what made that team better.
I'm not a flamer over MF like you are over JR. I don't think I have said anything negative about JR even though I don't think very highly of him. Its like you take it personal when someone prefers MF over JR.
Posted on 4/22/09 at 1:21 pm to TigerNlc
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I mean hell JR was the best physical freak of a QB LSU ever had and probably ever will have...
I think Dorsey would have something to say about that.
Posted on 4/22/09 at 1:23 pm to TigerNlc
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I mean hell JR was the best physical freak of a QB LSU ever had and probably ever will have...
I think Dorsey would have something to say about that.
I doubt that one... especially since Dorsey didn't play QB.
Posted on 4/22/09 at 1:26 pm to tduecen
He is a physical freak though
Posted on 4/22/09 at 1:29 pm to TigerNlc
Reading comprehension my friend, reading comprehension... I did say
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JR was the best physical freak of a QB
Posted on 4/22/09 at 1:35 pm to AlexLSU
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He actually played pretty well against Ark all things considered
Posted on 4/22/09 at 11:43 pm to TheDoc
Nice load of crap you got there. You highlight the one game where Flynn played with a busted shoulder (which forced him to sit out the next week’s SECCG?)
Does JR have an excuse for, 44-76 497yds 1TD 3int, 3 fumbles
3 interceptions & 3 fumbles? WTF? In the only two losses of that year? Those are JLee type numbers, right? Yet you choose to belittle Flynn, who with a busted wing, still managed 3TD, 0 ints, 0 fumbles.
If you can let JR slide for single-handedly losing two games for LSU, then you need to extend that courtesy to every LSU QB.
Does JR have an excuse for, 44-76 497yds 1TD 3int, 3 fumbles
3 interceptions & 3 fumbles? WTF? In the only two losses of that year? Those are JLee type numbers, right? Yet you choose to belittle Flynn, who with a busted wing, still managed 3TD, 0 ints, 0 fumbles.
If you can let JR slide for single-handedly losing two games for LSU, then you need to extend that courtesy to every LSU QB.
This post was edited on 4/23/09 at 1:54 am
Posted on 4/23/09 at 5:53 am to RobbBobb
I extend that courtesy to every LSU QB... its not their fault, it is the refs, media, fans, coaches fault
Posted on 4/23/09 at 6:09 am to RobbBobb
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RobbBobb
hey cocksmoke, I just posted the stats.
Posted on 4/23/09 at 10:47 am to TheDoc
This really isn't debatable. Russell and Flynn had very, very separate rolls. Russell had to win every game for LSU. He was the cornerstone of the offense. Flynn had to not lose the game for LSU. He was a game manager, and he did a good job at it. However, he wasn't nearly the QB that Russell was.
In 2006, LSU was a one dimisional offense until Keiland started playing really well at the very end of the season. There was no running game against Auburn and Florida. If Les and Jimbo stopped running the ball on every first and second down after the first half instead of with 7:00 minutes left, we win that game hands down.
We caught a really bad break at Florida (the non existant hold by Big Herm) which stopped us from going up 14 - 0 with 5:00 left. After that we lost all momentum and it started to snowball.
Flynn had a better O-line (I'm not sure which yahoo posted otherwise, but that was a ridiculous statement), better running game, better TE, and better offensive coordinator.
Russell had the better receiving corp. and better defense.
In 2006, LSU was a one dimisional offense until Keiland started playing really well at the very end of the season. There was no running game against Auburn and Florida. If Les and Jimbo stopped running the ball on every first and second down after the first half instead of with 7:00 minutes left, we win that game hands down.
We caught a really bad break at Florida (the non existant hold by Big Herm) which stopped us from going up 14 - 0 with 5:00 left. After that we lost all momentum and it started to snowball.
Flynn had a better O-line (I'm not sure which yahoo posted otherwise, but that was a ridiculous statement), better running game, better TE, and better offensive coordinator.
Russell had the better receiving corp. and better defense.
Posted on 4/23/09 at 10:50 am to Antonio Moss
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He was a game manager
LSU hasn't had a game manager in a real long time. Flynn made some great plays for LSU here but also threw plenty of interceptions. He was far too talented to be considered a game manager
Posted on 4/23/09 at 11:26 am to TigerBait1127
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LSU hasn't had a game manager in a real long time. Flynn made some great plays for LSU here but also threw plenty of interceptions. He was far too talented to be considered a game manager
agreed.
for the "game manager" label, he threw 11 picks as a 5th year senior.
Posted on 4/23/09 at 11:27 am to TheDoc
who is the last game manager that we have had?
Flynn, Russell, and Davey all made big plays in almost every game
Flynn, Russell, and Davey all made big plays in almost every game
Posted on 4/23/09 at 11:31 am to TigerBait1127
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LSU hasn't had a game manager in a real long time. Flynn made some great plays for LSU here but also threw plenty of interceptions. He was far too talented to be considered a game manager
I would consider him a game manager in the sense that he was not the primary offensive weapon on the team. His job was to get the ball into the hands of playmakers and prevent turnovers.
Now, I think Flynn was an outstanding QB and I don't use the term "game manager" as an insult. With the talent LSU has, a game managing QB is probably a better fit for program. My big distinction betweem the two is that the coaches wouldn't plan an entire offensive scheme around Flynn's passing ability, but they did with Russell.
Posted on 4/23/09 at 11:36 am to Antonio Moss
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My big distinction betweem the two is that the coaches wouldn't plan an entire offensive scheme around Flynn's passing ability, but they did with Russell.
but we didn't plan the scheme around russell. We ran the ball too many times, especially against Auburn, with no success.
Posted on 4/23/09 at 12:47 pm to TheDoc
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I just posted the stats.
me, too
Russell - 1 TD, 3 ints, 3 fumbles (in '06 losses)
Flynn - 3 TDs, 0 ints, 0 fumbles (in '07 losses)
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