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Everybody's worried about the O-line, and I'm worried about the D-line

Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:41 am
Posted by tenacious
Dallas, Texas
Member since Sep 2003
1961 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:41 am
The D-line gave up an average of 138 rushing yards per game. That's not great by any stretch of the imagination. We were not great at putting pressure on the QB. We got manhandled by Bama. And, we basically have the same guys up front.

Now, I realize that Chaisson is back, but I would consider him to be unproven at best. He may be great, and he may be a disappointment. I don't think we have enough to make that determination at this point. Same with Shelvin and Ika. The potential is there for great improvement, but that's all it is.

I think the changes in offensive philosophy will bode well for our offensive line. The offense will be more quick strike, and the O-line won't have to give the QB as much time. But the D-line has to be better, especially given the fact that our offense will likely not be on the field as long without our rush-heavy, clock chewing style of play.

I'm hopeful, but, to be honest, that's my biggest concern with this team.

Fire away!!
Posted by ElectricWizard0
Member since Jul 2017
2702 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:44 am to
We got more depth now baw, at least 2 deep at every spot. Last year we didn’t really have reliable people for rotations
Posted by tenacious
Dallas, Texas
Member since Sep 2003
1961 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:45 am to
quote:

We got more depth now baw, at least 2 deep at every spot. Last year we didn’t really have reliable people for rotations


We have unproven depth, but I agree.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164181 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:45 am to
LSU hasn't had enough depth and beef for the 3-4. That's been changing through the last couple of recruiting classes.
Posted by beantown
Nashville
Member since Sep 2015
3429 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:46 am to
‘Crootin
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38231 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:46 am to
We’re going back to a 4 down, one gapping front like in 2016. The 3 down man up looks only work when we have perfect gap integrity and our down linemen can win consistently against the OL.
Posted by hojo
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2005
1366 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:47 am to
You mention "potential" as reasons for concern on the d-line. Speaking of, I'll go with having to replace 129 points and a Lou Groza Award finalist with a true freshman kicker.
This post was edited on 8/9/19 at 11:48 am
Posted by ElectricWizard0
Member since Jul 2017
2702 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:49 am to
quote:

Speaking of, I'll go with having to replace 129 points and a Lou Groza Award finalist with a true freshman kicker.

Cade York gonna eat
Posted by tenacious
Dallas, Texas
Member since Sep 2003
1961 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:49 am to
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You mention "potential" as reasons for concern on the d-line.


What would concern you more: Proven, quality experience or Potential?

Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42667 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:49 am to
Not to mention Fehoko was injured last half of year and was playing with one arm.
Lawrence balled out in bowl game but it sounds like he played through a knee injury as well down the stretch.
Posted by emanresu
Member since Dec 2009
9368 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:50 am to
quote:

but I would consider him to be unproven at bes

Considering he's only started 4 games here, I'd agree. But on the other hand this hype is coming from the coaching staff. In aranda we trust.
Posted by hojo
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2005
1366 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:51 am to
Hope you're right. To me, no position on the field yields more uncertainty than a new place kicker. You never really know until you know, you know?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66582 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:52 am to
Spoiler: no formation works without beating your man.

There is functionally little difference between 4 down 3 down.

Whether The BOLB puts his hand on the ground or not we can do the same things.

Posted by PP7WasInbounds
Member since Aug 2019
132 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:52 am to
LINK

LSU allowed 89 tackles for loss.

LINK

LSU allowed 35 sacks.

The OL was far worse than the DL.
Posted by oreeg
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
5280 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:53 am to
You have 2 NT that you essentially didn't have last year (Shelvin and Ika) that allows guys like Lawrence and Fehoko to play their more natural End positions. Then you have 3 Juniors behind them that have seen quality playing time behind them. (Logan, Farrell and Thomas).

I don't see how this makes you nervous. This is one of the more deeper Dlines we've had in the past 10 years.
Posted by tenacious
Dallas, Texas
Member since Sep 2003
1961 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:53 am to
I agree about the kicker. I think we'll be really good this year, but we have legit concerns, and some things are really going to have to fall into place. I think they will, but I'm anxious to see the potential become a reality.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
30023 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:53 am to
I think shelvin is about to have a monster year. He looks so much better now than he has since he’s been here.
Posted by LSUBadger
Member since Jan 2014
2238 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:54 am to
Lawrence, Feheiko and Logan were all starters last year. One will be moving to the bench if Shelvin and Ika can hold down NT

Ferrell has a lot of experience and can play.

Only one guy in our two deep doesn’t have experience Not too shabby
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68340 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:56 am to
It's not necessarily the Dlines fault alone by any shape of the imagination for rushing yards given up. There's 3 of them, taking on 5-6 blockers, and their job the past couple years has just been to hold gaps and not really attack much, leaving the cleaning up for the LBs/S mostly on run plays.
Posted by Jacrispy
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2019
276 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:57 am to
Our DL issue was more about scheme. They weren’t disruptive because Aranda didn’t want them to be. He wanted them to eat up blocks so the LBs could come free. But i read the other day that the DL will be more aggressive this year and more 4 man fronts.
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