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re: Eric Reid's quote

Posted on 6/2/11 at 11:10 am to
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 11:10 am to
So how much do you suggest they make? 25K a year in scholarship money and another 10K in food, housing and textbooks for a grand total of about 35K a year isn't enough?


Remember these are student-athletes, not professional athletes.
This post was edited on 6/2/11 at 11:13 am
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 11:11 am to
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So you admit they are compensated for their work


Sure ... and they are compensated a lot. They don't need to be paid.
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 11:14 am to
What about the Grad assistant that has a scholarship to the school and is paid for the research work they do? Should they not be paid?
Posted by Boh
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 11:14 am to
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So how much do you suggest they make? 25K a year in scholarship money and another 10K in food, housing and textbooks for a grand total of about 35K a year isn't enough?

It definitely isn't enough. Just my opinion, but I agree with Spurrier and think he is dead on with a couple of those quotes. Look at what they do for the schools and cities. Most people don't give a shite about some undergrad that has to take out a student loan to get a history degree, but those people care about players making plays.

I'm not sure how to put a number on it, but I completely agree with Spurrier in opening up a discussion about it.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 11:15 am to
We're not talking about grad assistants. We're talking about student athletes. Two different things. Stay on topic.
Posted by LSUMJ
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 11:16 am to
this isnt even a Title IX issue
think of all the other mens teams each school would have to pay. some schools probably have 15-20 other sports just for the men

could LSU swing it? probably. but only a handful of athletic depts turn a profit currently, what would addding hundreds of thousands of dollars, maybe millions to their expenses do?

then you have to look at 1-aa, d2, etc...

then what happens if we hit a stretch like the mid90s? several bad seasons- sales go down across the board, then what happens to the budget
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 11:16 am to
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It definitely isn't enough
Posted by Boh
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 11:17 am to
Valid response there
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 11:17 am to
I am on topic, as I believe they are not really all that different. I know students getting their PHDs for free, while also being paid. I'd venture to say their work does not bring nearly the notoriety to the school that a Patrick Peterson does.
Posted by Boh
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 11:19 am to
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I'd venture to say their work does not bring nearly the notoriety to the school that a Patrick Peterson does.

Of course it doesn't

George, where do you think the entirety of the football program's profits should go?
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 11:19 am to
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So while many many students have to take out loans and leave college with huge debt, football players leave with no debt, have a scholarship that if they keep all 4 years is worth well over $100K and a degree that they can use to make money in the workplace after they graduate from a state university.

No way they should be paid. Their books, housing and food is all paid for too while enrolled.


Double edged sword, IMO.

You have a point and there's an argument for the players as well. They bring in a MASSIVE amount of money to the athletic program that funds other parts of the university.

Without those guys, there's no product on the field.


At the same time, your argument is solid as well.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 11:20 am to
My response is, i've never EVER heard of a star player (whom i'm assuming you want to pay because your argument is they make money for the school. 5th string DB doesn't ... but anyway) financially struggling. Besides all the shite LSU gives them, they are often taken care of by the community. Their star status lends them the freedom to live a very good life while in college.
Posted by Books
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 11:21 am to
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Les is smart. He knows the NCAA will never allow paying players. Signing off on that was basically free PR.



first thing I thought of when I read ab Spurrier's idea. And ironic that Chiz was one of the coaches to vote against.
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 11:29 am to
Don't know why I am pointing out the other side on this anyway, when I probably more agree with you George. Maybe it was the Trey Watkins fiasco . I will say that if you start paying players, you better watch out for them forming a union. Then the schools and NCAA are fricked.
Posted by yallallcrazy
Member since Oct 2007
826 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 11:35 am to
Agree totally.

And I do not think this idea that the individual players are being exploited holds water. Do people buy jerseys with PPs number, AJ Green's, number, etc? Sure they do. But if PP or AJ had never enrolled, people would buy just as many jerseys. The team is comprised of individual players but exists just the same without any specific one of them.

Also, the idea it will curb cheating is ludicrous. Most cheating isn't about getting $30 to go out on a Thursday night. It's about getting a car, jewelry, house for family, etc. Giving a few hundred buck a month won't stop it. Hell, no matter how much you give, it won't stop the cheating.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 11:41 am to
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i've never EVER heard of a star player financially struggling. Besides all the shite LSU gives them, they are often taken care of by the community. Their star status lends them the freedom to live a very good life while in college.


Inapropriate gifts under NCAA guidelines. What this is intended to do is curb that practice and keep the $ above board.

I too can see both sides of the argument. Are they not receiving some sort of stipend to live on?
Posted by RagingStiff
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 11:43 am to
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GeorgeTheGreek


rofl rofl. stfu dude. 35k a year for a 99.9 percentile athlete is a fricking joke. These players do more than 35k a year's worth of good for the school they play for.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
68549 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 11:44 am to
IT'S NOT PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL. Stop trying to make it be something it isn't. This isn't the NFL. 35K a year is plenty.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
68549 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 11:46 am to
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Are they not receiving some sort of stipend to live on?


They receive more than they need and have extra "spending" money from such stipends.
This post was edited on 6/2/11 at 11:47 am
Posted by Bubba Hotep
Member since Nov 2003
9330 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 11:47 am to
It's a useless debate. Will never happen. You would have to pay the swimmers and cross country athletes as well as the football players. The vast majority of athletic departments are operating in the red. Paying each athlete just a few hundred dollars a month would bankrupt a lot of athletic departments.
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