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re: Ed Orgeron's presser on the offense

Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:33 pm to
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:33 pm to
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I'm really not an unreasonable person.


me either
Posted by Goldrush25
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:36 pm to
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What happened in 2013?



Do you know?

USC was 60th in scoring offense, 74th in total yards per game that coach's interim year. That same year LSU was 23rd in scoring offense

So on second thought, use the interim year too.

Time for you to regroup.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 2:39 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:38 pm to
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USC was 60th in scoring offense that interim year.


They were like 43rd total offense. Just a few spots behind LSUs best offensive year since 2007.

So you're saying he got in the way there?
Posted by earl keese
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:39 pm to
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His USC offense rolled pretty good.


His USC offense? That wasn't his offense. That was Lane Kiffin's and Clay Helton's offense. Oregon was the defensive line coach before he took over as the interim head coach during week 6 of the 2013 season.

His USC offense.
Posted by Goldrush25
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:40 pm to
What stats are you looking at?

The ones that I'm looking at don't look good for the point you're trying to make.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 2:43 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:40 pm to
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That wasn't his offense.


Congrats on your reading disability.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:41 pm to
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So you're saying he got in the way there?


Pretty sure he's saying that putting a lot of blame on or giving a lot credit to a an interim coach of 8 games for the offense's performance is silly.

It makes far more sense to look at the performance of the offenses under him when he is the full-time head coach for the full season.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 2:42 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:42 pm to
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What stats are you looking at?


LINK

3100 passing yards, 3400 rushing yards
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:43 pm to
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Pretty sure he's saying that putting a lot of blame on or giving a lot credit to a an interim coach of 8 games for the offense's performance is silly.

It makes far more sense to look at the performance of the offenses under him when he is the full-time head coach for the full season.



The joke is still on Shrubs because that 2013 USC offense wasn't very good either.

I assumed it must've been since he introduced it into the conversation but looked it up and it wasn't good. He's sabatoging his own point.
Posted by earl keese
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:45 pm to
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Congrats on your reading disability.


My comment:
quote:

That wasn't his offense.


Your comment:
quote:

His USC offense rolled pretty good.


Congrats on having your head up your arse. AGAIN.

Try to keep up with who said what ding-a-ling.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:46 pm to
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Pretty sure he's saying that putting a lot of blame on or giving a lot credit to a an interim coach of 8 games for the offense's performance is silly.


Well he claimed that Orgeron always got in the way of the offense.
As interim, was he not responsible for all aspects of the game.?

Planning, approving.. why didn't he meddle then? They scored 62 at Cal

Maybe Goldfish is wrong
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:46 pm to
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LINK

3100 passing yards, 3400 rushing yards



That's total yards, not yards per game. And you're quoting wrong numbers. They had 5599 total yards.

They were 73rd in yards per game.

Time for you to eject from the thread.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 2:48 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:47 pm to
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Congrats on having your head up your arse. AGAIN.


Who was responsible for the offensive performance?

Tia.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40043 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:47 pm to
I mean if he was the offensive coordinator before being named interim coach it would be one thing. But he was the DL coach. He stepped in to keep the train from running completely off the tracks and did a commendable job, just like at LSU in 2016.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283538 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:49 pm to
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He stepped in to keep the train from running completely off the tracks and did a commendable job, just like at LSU in 2016.


Ah, gotcha. So interim, in your opinion was not involved enough to get credit. Gotcha. My bad, I was under the impression they had full responsibility.

So it would have been impossible for him to meddle as interim. Got t
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:52 pm to
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Ah, gotcha. So interim, in your opinion was not involved enough to get credit. Gotcha. My bad, I was under the impression they had full responsibility.

So it would have been impossible for him to meddle as interim. Got t




You still don't realize that you've posted wrong numbers.

We're all still waiting on evidence that this guy has had anything to do with running a good offense.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 2:59 pm
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40043 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:53 pm to
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Ah, gotcha. So interim, in your opinion was not involved enough to get credit. Gotcha. My bad, I was under the impression they had full responsibility.

In a general sense he gets credit for keeping things on track. Weekly preparations, motivation, energy, etc. Clay Helton was the offensive coordinator the entire 2013 season for USC. I'm honestly not sure what you're trying to argue here. He did a solid job as an interim keeping things under control relatively speaking. USC's offense wasn't that good that year and O doesn't really deserve much credit or blame at all one way or the other.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283538 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:56 pm to
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In a general sense he gets credit for keeping things on track.


interim coaches have 100% of the responsibilities of permenant coaches.

Shocking, I know.

It's just mind boggling that Orgeron decided that one single time as HC not to screw up the offense like Goldfish says he does.

Crazy stuff!
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:57 pm to
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USC was 60th in scoring offense, 74th in total yards per game that coach's interim year. That same year LSU was 23rd in scoring offense


Those are the same stats the site I went to has.
63rd in rushing offense, 72nd in passing offense, 74th in total yards and 60th in scoring offense.

Nothing to brag about.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40043 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:59 pm to
You're too lost in your own stupid twisted arguments to even continue this. I'm out.
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