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re: Ed Orgeron's presser on the offense
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:29 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:29 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I must have missed the funny part. You seem to have missed a lot of the relevant, specific qualifiers in the post you responded to as well.
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:34 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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RogerTheShrubber
You honest to God think an interim head coach, who was the defensive line coach, six weeks into the season is going to be planning what the offense is going to do week to week going forward?
That's crazy Roger.
His offense!
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:36 pm to lsu2006
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You seem to have missed a lot of the relevant, specific qualifiers in the post you responded to as well.
That have nothing to do with HC duties ?
Running a program, even as interim, involves full responsibility and the OC and D.C. Report to him.
I don't know why you and Earl think that's controversial. Seems pretty basic to me.
The offense improved after Kiffin was fired BTW. It didn't go the opposite direction, as a certain person has claimed.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:38 pm to earl keese
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You honest to God think an interim head coach, who was the defensive line coach, six weeks into the season is going to be planning what the offense is going to do week to week going forward?
Earl that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard and you're the only one who's said it
You are lost without Ricky.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:39 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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but he certainly has changed.
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I've always been optimistic
I hope this isn't true but I think you are back on the sauce........ You have been acting different the last year or so.................
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:41 pm to dukke v
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but I think you are back on the sauce.
No offense, but I don't worry much about anything you think
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:42 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Running a program, even as interim, involves full responsibility and the OC and D.C. Report to him.
But it's a little different when the head coach isn't an offensive-minded coach, wasn't actually made the head coach until 4 weeks into the season, didn't hire any his staff, didn't have any influence on the offense whatsoever the entire offseason and the first 4 weeks of the year and didn't make any offensive staff changes when named the interim... You can at least agree with that right? Of course the interim coach in a situation like O's at USC deserves some credit and some blame for how the team performs at a macro level, but it's just not the same as a full-time coach who hand picks his staff and has a top-down influence on everything the entire offseason and entire season.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:43 pm to lsu2006
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But it's a little different when the head coach isn't an offensive-minded coach
Absolutely not. The HC is ultimately responsible for everything.
Goldfish claims Orgeron always gets in the way of the offense. It improved when he took over in 2016 and 2013.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:44 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Earl that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard and you're the only one who's said it
Good for you Roger.
The dumbest thing I've ever heard was a defensive line coach, who gets named the interim head coach six weeks into the season, is going to be involved in the offensive game plan.
And you're the only one who who has said this.
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You are lost without Ricky.
Okay Roger.
Remember everybody, Roger said that the 2013 USC offense was o's offense.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:44 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Cool so you're going to respond to like 1/10th of my entire post. Good ole disingenuous Rog.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:45 pm to RogerTheShrubber
In a thread just a few minutes ago you posted...
And here you are....doing exactly the things you claimed made this board go to shite.
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This board has gone to shite. It's 4th grade level drama queen stuff
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Same thread, same half dozen girls pulling hair. Repeats every day
And here you are....doing exactly the things you claimed made this board go to shite.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:46 pm to earl keese
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The dumbest thing I've ever heard was a defensive line coach, who gets named the interim head coach six weeks into the season, is going to be involved in the offensive game plan.
He's responsible for it.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:47 pm to Rosenblatt
SE will be the OC in 2020. He just signed an extension to that effect. Brady will not be OC for several years. He needs more experience. Since SE did not get a raise, one might assume Brady will take over in 2021.
SE is a very special individual. In his own way he is very smart. For some reason he is not as money oriented as others coaches. For a number of years he could have been an OC at LSU and other schools but chose to stay at LSU as TE coach.
People are surprised at how well he and Brady work together. That is another side to SE. He knows how to work with others and still maintain his authority for the position he has.
He also understands Brady’s being a young gun in the passing offense. In his day SE was the young gun. He was OC at both AU and Tx A&M with instructions to upgrade the passing. The changes he tried to make were not popular with other coaches at both places.
Because of this he was dismissed from both jobs after a year. Both HC have both since said they should have listened to SE. and they made a mistake.
This kind of experience has helped him adopt Brady into the LSU offense. It will be interesting to view the results of this partnership. IMO it will be great.
SE is a very special individual. In his own way he is very smart. For some reason he is not as money oriented as others coaches. For a number of years he could have been an OC at LSU and other schools but chose to stay at LSU as TE coach.
People are surprised at how well he and Brady work together. That is another side to SE. He knows how to work with others and still maintain his authority for the position he has.
He also understands Brady’s being a young gun in the passing offense. In his day SE was the young gun. He was OC at both AU and Tx A&M with instructions to upgrade the passing. The changes he tried to make were not popular with other coaches at both places.
Because of this he was dismissed from both jobs after a year. Both HC have both since said they should have listened to SE. and they made a mistake.
This kind of experience has helped him adopt Brady into the LSU offense. It will be interesting to view the results of this partnership. IMO it will be great.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:47 pm to lsu2006
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Cool so you're going to respond to like 1/10th of my entire post.
Is the HC responsible or not?
Simple yes or no
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:47 pm to earl keese
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Remember everybody, Roger said that the 2013 USC offense was o's offense.
I'm ok with it. He thought he was hitting me with some gotcha, but 2013 USC had a garbage offense too.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:48 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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No offense, but I don't worry much about anything you think
Hey dude... You used to......... Which I don't care one way or the other... You say you live in Alaska..... BUT you have bragged about being sober for so many years.... And YES you have changed.....
You can go frick yourself as far as I care.....
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:49 pm to eltigre2
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SE will be the OC in 2020
I think Brady will continually increase duties though. Th S year and next
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:50 pm to dukke v
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You can go frick yourself as far as I care
You poor little man...
You get way too drunk and personally hurt here
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:50 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Is the HC responsible or not?
YES.... But if he is a good enough HC he lets his OC do what needs to be done to win..... FACT...
O doesn't have that....
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Is the HC responsible or not?
Simple yes or no
But it's not a simple yes or no. That's the thing.
There's a difference between the level of influence on an offense of an interim head coach with no offensive coaching experience who takes over 4 games in and makes no major staff changes and a head coach who hand picks his entire staff and has influence and control from the top down for an entire offseason and the entire regular season. With different levels of influence comes different levels of "responsibility". This isn't complicated stuff, Rog.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 3:52 pm
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