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re: Drive summaries when Jefferson took over

Posted on 11/22/08 at 11:33 pm to
Posted by Tigahbait25
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/22/08 at 11:33 pm to
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So can anyone answer what Jefferson did to impress?

he couldnt even sustain a drive at QB.



He looked off 3 receivers. Thats 3 more than Lee. JJ would be better than Lee if he had played the entire time up to now.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 11/22/08 at 11:35 pm to
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Hey lester earl, maybe lsu could start the qb with the high ankle sprain?

Sound good?

Jackass




That doesn't sound like the author of the first post in that other thread....

quote:

LOL @ Lee supporters: (Posted on 11/22 at 7:07 p.m.)


I tried to tell everyone weeks ago. Oh well...

Jefferson does EVERYTHING better than Lee.

And he's only a FROSH


Obviously JJ will start this week for Arkie. But that doesn't change the fact that JJ hasn't proven that he is better than Lee. They are roughly comparable, it is just that outside of a general statement like experience they lack in different areas, so they complement each other extremely well.
Posted by nhsj012
Member since Aug 2008
2975 posts
Posted on 11/22/08 at 11:36 pm to
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crowton insisting on running the ball led to those short drives.

because JJ doesn't know any plays.

i just love how all the excuses pop up when JJ is at qb. Dropped balls, o-line played bad, no running game, bad play calling...so this wasn't the case for lee? yall are amusing. i even saw an excuse about the int..blame it on the wr. point is JJ and lee produced exactly the same results even though the approach was different.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52895 posts
Posted on 11/22/08 at 11:36 pm to
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He looked off 3 receivers. Thats 3 more than Lee. JJ would be better than Lee if he had played the entire time up to now.



I would disagree here. From what I hear, JJ's main problem is knowledge of the playbook. You don't learn that shite on the field.

And Lee has been doing a lot better on progressions on most plays, both in the last game and this.

Posted by Tigahbait25
Member since Oct 2008
795 posts
Posted on 11/22/08 at 11:37 pm to
Actually this came up for Lee in his first 2-3 games he played in. After that, we realized he wasnt really that good.
Posted by nhsj012
Member since Aug 2008
2975 posts
Posted on 11/22/08 at 11:39 pm to
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He looked off 3 receivers. Thats 3 more than Lee. JJ would be better than Lee if he had played the entire time up to now

what game were you watching? JJ came up to the line knowing exactly who he was throwing to before the play and stared him down the entire time..this is why he looked so decisive.
Posted by Randazzo
Metairie, LA
Member since Sep 2004
12380 posts
Posted on 11/22/08 at 11:39 pm to
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i just love how all the excuses pop up when JJ is at qb. Dropped balls, o-line played bad, no running game, bad play calling...so this wasn't the case for lee?


All of those are indeed factors to be taken into consideration for Lee; however, do NOT sit there and say that Lee has not played a big part in most of our losses, ESPECIALLY Alabama.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24485 posts
Posted on 11/22/08 at 11:40 pm to
There is nothing about the QB play that should have anyone excited about next season.

The fact that we had a 25 point lead over Tulane in the fourth quarter, and Lee is throwing a pick six, should tell you all you need to know.

With the offensive line and rushing attack we have had this season, there is absolutely no way to sugar coat the painful process we will see take place next season.

Do you realize we have seen little to no pressure on the QB this season? It is similar to what we saw before JR decided to show he could run. Everyone is dropping in soft zone and setting up punt return.

JMO, but we need to spend our time developing a QB that makes the defense respect his ability as a rusher at all times. It converts some critical third and longs on scrambles when receivers are covered, and opens up the playbook and passing lanes.

Of all the QB's in the SEC I have seen, Jarrett Lee is the only one I can think of that does not possess this ability. Sure, JJ needs some time to develop in the system. But, I'm guessing he would have shown more improvement with the same opportunities (even with one year less in the system) and surely would not have scored 49 points for the other team with 2 additional TD's on the doorstep (need I mention the dropped pick 6 today?).
Posted by Tigahbait25
Member since Oct 2008
795 posts
Posted on 11/22/08 at 11:43 pm to
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what game were you watching?


Well when he threw it deep, he pump faked to a different player first. Lee pumps to the same guy he throws it to.
Posted by nhsj012
Member since Aug 2008
2975 posts
Posted on 11/22/08 at 11:44 pm to
what on the gimmick tebow play?
Posted by Tigahbait25
Member since Oct 2008
795 posts
Posted on 11/22/08 at 11:45 pm to
No the drop back where he pumped to Lafell and threw it deep to Byrd which was a jump ball.
Posted by Bunta
Member since Oct 2007
12671 posts
Posted on 11/22/08 at 11:58 pm to
Lol, that deep ball to Byrd by Jefferson was not a good pass.
Posted by Tigahbait25
Member since Oct 2008
795 posts
Posted on 11/23/08 at 12:00 am to
The point being made is at least he didnt pump to his side. He pumped to Lafell on the right side then turned to throw left. Something Lee hasnt done. And Byrd should have caught it. Hit is hands. He had 4-5 inches and a higher vertical over the DB. This play was used many times by OSU and Dez Bryant and TTech with Crabtree.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
37890 posts
Posted on 11/23/08 at 12:06 am to
A wide open lafell that lee would have missed by 10 yards, JJ>>>JL it really isnt even close.
Posted by Hideo Nomo
Put up both hands, drop one thumb
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 11/23/08 at 12:11 am to
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I think the difference between the two in the eyes of the JJ proponents is that they see basically the same results, and for Lee it is all his fault, whereas for JJ they come up with excuses in their mind.


I see similar results (except for the fact that our running game today was the worst it's been all year) but JJ is the better quarterback at this point. I thought his passes had more zip and were generally more accurate but most importantly JJ has the mobility to escape the rush and even gain some yards scrambling.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 11/23/08 at 12:13 am to
quote:

6 plays 28 yards

9 plays 39 yards

3 plays -5 yards

3 plays 9 yards

6 plays 34 yards

4 plays -21 yards

4 plays 23 yards


Total points: 3



Thank you. I think Lee was missed. He would have done some damage, I'd like to think, in a hurry up, 2 minute offense.

Jefferson didn't boost us. He hurt us because the already cut in half playbook was again cut in half.
Posted by snackpack
Member since Dec 2005
3138 posts
Posted on 11/23/08 at 12:14 am to
are people serious on this thread? How can you not see that Jefferson has much more potential than lee? He is obviously much more mobile out of the pocket that fits crowton's offense and has just as good of an arm if not better. He honestly throws with a lot more zip than i thought. He seems to be much more accurate even though yes i havent seen him more than really a game but he is going to get better with each game he plays. He was much more poised than last week against Troy.
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
16683 posts
Posted on 11/23/08 at 12:15 am to
wtf kind of damage would Lee have done?? he was 4-12 with an INT. how many 3 and out drives did we have to start the game.
Posted by acgeaux129
We are BR
Member since Sep 2007
15011 posts
Posted on 11/23/08 at 12:16 am to
quote:

Hey lester earl, maybe lsu could start the qb with the high ankle sprain?

Sound good?

Jackass


hoepfully you are playing dub because that is irrelevant to his argument.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 11/23/08 at 12:16 am to
Dude...he would have put up more pts than 3. He's been doing it all year. Yes, he throws picks, but he's still a better qb right now.
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