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re: Drive summaries when Jefferson took over
Posted on 11/22/08 at 11:33 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 11/22/08 at 11:33 pm to Lester Earl
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So can anyone answer what Jefferson did to impress?
he couldnt even sustain a drive at QB.
He looked off 3 receivers. Thats 3 more than Lee. JJ would be better than Lee if he had played the entire time up to now.
Posted on 11/22/08 at 11:35 pm to TheDoc
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Hey lester earl, maybe lsu could start the qb with the high ankle sprain?
Sound good?
Jackass
That doesn't sound like the author of the first post in that other thread....
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LOL @ Lee supporters: (Posted on 11/22 at 7:07 p.m.)
I tried to tell everyone weeks ago. Oh well...
Jefferson does EVERYTHING better than Lee.
And he's only a FROSH
Obviously JJ will start this week for Arkie. But that doesn't change the fact that JJ hasn't proven that he is better than Lee. They are roughly comparable, it is just that outside of a general statement like experience they lack in different areas, so they complement each other extremely well.
Posted on 11/22/08 at 11:36 pm to lsu xman
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crowton insisting on running the ball led to those short drives.
because JJ doesn't know any plays.
i just love how all the excuses pop up when JJ is at qb. Dropped balls, o-line played bad, no running game, bad play calling...so this wasn't the case for lee?
Posted on 11/22/08 at 11:36 pm to Tigahbait25
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He looked off 3 receivers. Thats 3 more than Lee. JJ would be better than Lee if he had played the entire time up to now.
I would disagree here. From what I hear, JJ's main problem is knowledge of the playbook. You don't learn that shite on the field.
And Lee has been doing a lot better on progressions on most plays, both in the last game and this.
Posted on 11/22/08 at 11:37 pm to nhsj012
Actually this came up for Lee in his first 2-3 games he played in. After that, we realized he wasnt really that good.
Posted on 11/22/08 at 11:39 pm to Tigahbait25
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He looked off 3 receivers. Thats 3 more than Lee. JJ would be better than Lee if he had played the entire time up to now
what game were you watching? JJ came up to the line knowing exactly who he was throwing to before the play and stared him down the entire time..this is why he looked so decisive.
Posted on 11/22/08 at 11:39 pm to nhsj012
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i just love how all the excuses pop up when JJ is at qb. Dropped balls, o-line played bad, no running game, bad play calling...so this wasn't the case for lee?
All of those are indeed factors to be taken into consideration for Lee; however, do NOT sit there and say that Lee has not played a big part in most of our losses, ESPECIALLY Alabama.
Posted on 11/22/08 at 11:40 pm to Lester Earl
There is nothing about the QB play that should have anyone excited about next season.
The fact that we had a 25 point lead over Tulane in the fourth quarter, and Lee is throwing a pick six, should tell you all you need to know.
With the offensive line and rushing attack we have had this season, there is absolutely no way to sugar coat the painful process we will see take place next season.
Do you realize we have seen little to no pressure on the QB this season? It is similar to what we saw before JR decided to show he could run. Everyone is dropping in soft zone and setting up punt return.
JMO, but we need to spend our time developing a QB that makes the defense respect his ability as a rusher at all times. It converts some critical third and longs on scrambles when receivers are covered, and opens up the playbook and passing lanes.
Of all the QB's in the SEC I have seen, Jarrett Lee is the only one I can think of that does not possess this ability. Sure, JJ needs some time to develop in the system. But, I'm guessing he would have shown more improvement with the same opportunities (even with one year less in the system) and surely would not have scored 49 points for the other team with 2 additional TD's on the doorstep (need I mention the dropped pick 6 today?).
The fact that we had a 25 point lead over Tulane in the fourth quarter, and Lee is throwing a pick six, should tell you all you need to know.
With the offensive line and rushing attack we have had this season, there is absolutely no way to sugar coat the painful process we will see take place next season.
Do you realize we have seen little to no pressure on the QB this season? It is similar to what we saw before JR decided to show he could run. Everyone is dropping in soft zone and setting up punt return.
JMO, but we need to spend our time developing a QB that makes the defense respect his ability as a rusher at all times. It converts some critical third and longs on scrambles when receivers are covered, and opens up the playbook and passing lanes.
Of all the QB's in the SEC I have seen, Jarrett Lee is the only one I can think of that does not possess this ability. Sure, JJ needs some time to develop in the system. But, I'm guessing he would have shown more improvement with the same opportunities (even with one year less in the system) and surely would not have scored 49 points for the other team with 2 additional TD's on the doorstep (need I mention the dropped pick 6 today?).
Posted on 11/22/08 at 11:43 pm to nhsj012
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what game were you watching?
Well when he threw it deep, he pump faked to a different player first. Lee pumps to the same guy he throws it to.
Posted on 11/22/08 at 11:44 pm to Tigahbait25
what on the gimmick tebow play?
Posted on 11/22/08 at 11:45 pm to nhsj012
No the drop back where he pumped to Lafell and threw it deep to Byrd which was a jump ball.
Posted on 11/22/08 at 11:58 pm to Tigahbait25
Lol, that deep ball to Byrd by Jefferson was not a good pass.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 12:00 am to Bunta
The point being made is at least he didnt pump to his side. He pumped to Lafell on the right side then turned to throw left. Something Lee hasnt done. And Byrd should have caught it. Hit is hands. He had 4-5 inches and a higher vertical over the DB. This play was used many times by OSU and Dez Bryant and TTech with Crabtree.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 12:06 am to Lester Earl
A wide open lafell that lee would have missed by 10 yards, JJ>>>JL it really isnt even close.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 12:11 am to Volvagia
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I think the difference between the two in the eyes of the JJ proponents is that they see basically the same results, and for Lee it is all his fault, whereas for JJ they come up with excuses in their mind.
I see similar results (except for the fact that our running game today was the worst it's been all year) but JJ is the better quarterback at this point. I thought his passes had more zip and were generally more accurate but most importantly JJ has the mobility to escape the rush and even gain some yards scrambling.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 12:13 am to Lester Earl
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6 plays 28 yards
9 plays 39 yards
3 plays -5 yards
3 plays 9 yards
6 plays 34 yards
4 plays -21 yards
4 plays 23 yards
Total points: 3
Thank you. I think Lee was missed. He would have done some damage, I'd like to think, in a hurry up, 2 minute offense.
Jefferson didn't boost us. He hurt us because the already cut in half playbook was again cut in half.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 12:14 am to TigerBait2008
are people serious on this thread? How can you not see that Jefferson has much more potential than lee? He is obviously much more mobile out of the pocket that fits crowton's offense and has just as good of an arm if not better. He honestly throws with a lot more zip than i thought. He seems to be much more accurate even though yes i havent seen him more than really a game but he is going to get better with each game he plays. He was much more poised than last week against Troy.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 12:15 am to PiscesTiger
wtf kind of damage would Lee have done?? he was 4-12 with an INT. how many 3 and out drives did we have to start the game.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 12:16 am to TheDoc
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Hey lester earl, maybe lsu could start the qb with the high ankle sprain?
Sound good?
Jackass
hoepfully you are playing dub because that is irrelevant to his argument.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 12:16 am to lsu xman
Dude...he would have put up more pts than 3. He's been doing it all year. Yes, he throws picks, but he's still a better qb right now.
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