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re: Does size matter? App vs. LSU
Posted on 7/30/08 at 3:34 pm to geauxaddai
Posted on 7/30/08 at 3:34 pm to geauxaddai
geauxaddai
seriously. stop.
seriously. stop.
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Posted on 7/30/08 at 4:04 pm to appfan
So what you are saying is that IF Appy recruited an Elite 11 QB to campus NOONE up there would think that Edwards would be getting some competition?
Posted on 7/30/08 at 4:06 pm to noonan
quote:
geauxaddai
seriously. stop.
seconded
Posted on 7/30/08 at 4:16 pm to tigerfoot
Don't know what in the hell you're talking about...
Would be nice to see which post you are referring too...
Would be nice to see which post you are referring too...
Posted on 7/30/08 at 4:18 pm to appfan
Are you referring to the posts about AE being better than the LSU QBs? If so, I was just agreeing that a QB who has started for almost 2 full seasons is probably going to be better than a QB who hasn't. That may change once the "new" QB gets acquainted with the system and used to the atmosphere, but at least for the first game. They definitely might struggle
Posted on 7/30/08 at 4:28 pm to appfan
of course, to think with unwavering certainty Edwards is better than two highly recruited players with have superior talent around them is a tad presumptuous.
And if either JJ or JL were on the App campus there would be all types of buzz.
And if either JJ or JL were on the App campus there would be all types of buzz.
Posted on 7/30/08 at 4:34 pm to tigerfoot
If you're saying I'm being "presumptuous" in saying our QB is good...then I will be...excuse me for having confidence in our QB
Posted on 7/30/08 at 4:39 pm to appfan
Is that what I said? Hell I thought I said that to presume that Jefferson or Lee IF on the App team would be getting some serious reps due to their high status as incoming freshmen.
Posted on 7/30/08 at 4:43 pm to tigerfoot
What you are saying makes no sense.
I think that if the two QBs played came in as freshmen at App, the Coach Moore would give them a fair chance to compete with Armanti. I'm thinking that at least for the first couple of games, AE would be better because of the adjustment, but once the two got accumstomed to everything, yes, they may outshine AE.
Does this make sense with your comments? If not, I have no idea what you are saying...
I think that if the two QBs played came in as freshmen at App, the Coach Moore would give them a fair chance to compete with Armanti. I'm thinking that at least for the first couple of games, AE would be better because of the adjustment, but once the two got accumstomed to everything, yes, they may outshine AE.
Does this make sense with your comments? If not, I have no idea what you are saying...
Posted on 7/30/08 at 4:54 pm to appfan
Just to clear this up since I never got an answer, the correct poundage for LSU's offensive line is...
LT: Black (314 lbs)
LG: Johnson (351 lbs)
C: Helms (283 lbs)
RG: Hitt (284 lbs)
RT Barksdale (315 lbs)
AVG: 309.4 lbs
LT: Black (314 lbs)
LG: Johnson (351 lbs)
C: Helms (283 lbs)
RG: Hitt (284 lbs)
RT Barksdale (315 lbs)
AVG: 309.4 lbs
Posted on 7/30/08 at 4:55 pm to appfan
Exactly what I am saying.
In the prior post where you called a poster "delusional" for stating that Edwards may not be in fact THAT much better than our QBs it sounded as though you thought differently
In the prior post where you called a poster "delusional" for stating that Edwards may not be in fact THAT much better than our QBs it sounded as though you thought differently
Posted on 7/30/08 at 5:28 pm to thunderbird1100
I used the data from dandy don's [link=(websitehttps://www.dandydon.com/depthchart.html)]LINK[/link] which suggests that you will have six including the TE No. 18 Richard Dickson, 6'3", 245, JR.
Add this into your equation and see if my math holds up.
I included him because he will play as a lineman in certain rushing situations, blocking, etc.
Add this into your equation and see if my math holds up.
I included him because he will play as a lineman in certain rushing situations, blocking, etc.
Posted on 7/30/08 at 5:33 pm to Appaholic69
I also mistakenly did not include our TE Trey Hennessee TE 6-1 230 Sr. in the ASU O-line math. With him included our line average would be 247.5 lbs.
This gives LSU a 34.5lb advantage.
This gives LSU a 34.5lb advantage.
This post was edited on 7/30/08 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 7/30/08 at 6:25 pm to Appaholic69
Yes.
Posted on 7/30/08 at 6:27 pm to Appaholic69
quote:
I used the data from dandy don's LINK which suggests that you will have six including the TE No. 18 Richard Dickson, 6'3", 245, JR.
Add this into your equation and see if my math holds up.
I included him because he will play as a lineman in certain rushing situations, blocking, etc
Dandydon's stats are a little "fudged" to say the least. I know lsusports.net isn't quite updated with everyones...but it's better than using dandydon.
And a TE is not a lineman. An offensive lineman is an offensive lineman, period.
I understand the TE will block at times, but I wouldn't count him as part of the actual offensive line.
This post was edited on 7/30/08 at 6:28 pm
Posted on 7/30/08 at 6:32 pm to tigerfoot
quote:
In the prior post where you called a poster "delusional" for stating that Edwards may not be in fact THAT much better than our QBs it sounded as though you thought differently
I haven't followed all the exchange but Edwards does have a big advantage in terms of experience and pure athleticism.
By "experience," I mean that Edwards has been through two playoff tournaments. That is a totally different world than what teams in the FBS experience. It is four consecutive "sudden death games." Plus he had that Michigan thing.
It may not seem like much to you, but he has been through eight games where the national championship of his realm was on the line. I think there is a certain psychology to that. It's something none of LSU's current quarterbacks have experienced. None of them have experienced even one game such that "winning it all" depended in large part on their performance.
This post was edited on 7/30/08 at 6:34 pm
Posted on 7/30/08 at 8:28 pm to tigerfoot
My comment about the poster being delusional was geared towards geauxaddai...He was the one that said that AE wouldn't be better than the first-time QBs...
I was agreeing with Towelie...
If you didn't get that, I'm sorry. If I didn't answer your questions or w/e, then I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to say...
I was agreeing with Towelie...
If you didn't get that, I'm sorry. If I didn't answer your questions or w/e, then I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to say...
Posted on 7/30/08 at 10:33 pm to Towelie
quote:
Have you heard anything about Edwards busting up his knee? Someone here earlier was trying to say something to that effect.
As per conversation on the MMB he seems to be OK:)
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Was up there today and "got" on the field to better view the construction. After about 5 min. Armanti came out w/ some of the recievers and started throwing some. Gosh he can he deliver that pill!! Got him to sign a buddy's mini-helmet and then was confronted with a nice lady that said the stadium and football office are off-limits so staff and players can work w/o distractions from now on. I can completely understand this and cannot wait till FanFest
Posted on 7/30/08 at 11:21 pm to Appftball
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And a TE is not a lineman. An offensive lineman is an offensive lineman, period.
Not in my book. The first job of a TE is to block, catch passes second. ASU often uses an OLineman as a TE simply for blocking. Part of that approach is because of 1-AA depth issues, part of it is because it's good business.
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