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re: Does LF rush for 1800 yards this season?
Posted on 7/24/15 at 7:40 am to say when
Posted on 7/24/15 at 7:40 am to say when
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Oh Rick, you are the perfect example that stupid people will never know just how stupid they really are.
Right because the opinions of people that get PAID to evaluate talent is less than you football ignorant people. It's laughable that you don't understand that .
My degree from Duke says I'm really dumb. It's laughable that you haven't given an opinion all you've done is say I'm stupid. Which means you're calling every single recruiting site stupid because they all agree with me.
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 7:52 am
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 7:42 am to DTRooster
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guessing he's like 12 or so. Hung up on the hype and doesn't even realize the analyst for last year were wrong so far. Chubb was the best freshman RB of 2015 so far, hopefully Fournettes eye and football instinct catch up with his gifts
Except you're the dumbass that thinks TALENT equals production.
You act like your football ignorant Opinion should mean more than every single recruiting site. You clearly know shite about football.
Those analysts do a great job of ranking talent. Every year there are abut 2500 recruits and those analyst pick 30 5* recruits. 44% of those picks get drafted and 38 % get drafted in the 1st round.
So yeah their opinions are respected more than. 4 dumbass people that don't know football. Also LF loved up to hype dumbass. He broke the lsu freshman rushing record. Led the Sec in all purpose yards as a true freshman.
Adrian Peterson Freshman Yards per carry
5.7
Leonard Fournette Freshman yards per carry
5.5
And Adrian Peterson played in one of the most prolific passing attacks in cfb history while LF played in one of the worst passing attack in lsu history.
Like I said, in the last 5 years only 1 rb was even ranked in the top 5 overall recruits and his name was LF.
So keep thinking your football ignorant Opinion means more than theirs.
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 7:49 am
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:00 am to Rickdaddy4188
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It's laughable that you haven't given an opinion all you've done is say I'm stupid.
you've given the opinion of other people and taken it as definitive data, people who are completely wrong 56% of the time. please take me to vegas next time you want to lay down a bet. if you really did graduate from duke, i hope you didn't major in anything that required analytical thinking
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:13 am to Rickdaddy4188
I'm done with this thread. We are arguing a subjective topic.
Me having the same opinion as every single person that's paid to evaluate talent, doesn't make me stupid.
Me having the same opinion as every single person that's paid to evaluate talent, doesn't make me stupid.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:17 am to lsufball19
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you've given the opinion of other people and taken it as definitive data,
Holy shite.im not an idiot so I don't try to pass OPINION OFF AS FACT. At no point did i ever say its difinitive. Not one time. I've repeatedly said it's MY opinion that Lf is more talented than Hill because LF was a better highschool rb and LF had a better first year at lsu. It's my opinion that what LF did behind one of the worst passing attacks in lsu history proves his talent. It's my opinion that LF is more talented and every single recruiting site agrees.
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people who are completely wrong 56% of the time. pl
You are an idiot if you think picking 30 players our of 2500 and getting 44% of them right is bad. You clearly don't bet or realize the odd of that. It's extremely impressive to pick 30 our of 2500 and be right 44% of the time. To suggest otherwise is ignorant
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 8:18 am
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:21 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Me having the same opinion as every single person that's paid to evaluate talent, doesn't make me stupid.
So when recruiting analysts completely miss on someone and rank him lower, that means the player was less talented than another player they missed on who was ranked highly? What we're trying to tell you is analyzing recruits is not anywhere in the ballpark of an accurate science. It's a whole lot of guess work, based large in part of where the kid is from, what level of high school ball he played, what camps he went to, what colleges have offered him, etc. You can't look at it in a vacuum and say, "oh, he was ranked higher coming out of high school, so since they get paid to do it, their opinion of this player's raw talent is accurate." Jeremy Hill was ranked like 21st among the backs in his class. Do you really think, coming out of high school, he was the 21st most talented running back? Melvin Gordon was in that class too, ranked 23rd. The entire top 5 in that class went undrafted and some of the top 10 have been complete wash outs at the college level. That's just one class. It happens every year. So for you to say that because recruiting analysts put unreal expectations on Fournette coming out of high school, it unequivocally means that he was a lot more talented than Jeremy Hill. You can repeat the same "they get paid to do this" nonsense until you're blue in the face, but that doesn't make that assertion any more valid. Clearly Hill was undervalued and much more talented than he was given credit for coming out of high school. And Fournette still has a lot to prove the next two years that he was the "next adrian peterson"
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 8:26 am
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:31 am to Rickdaddy4188
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You are an idiot if you think picking 30 players our of 2500 and getting 44% of them right is bad.
you say this as if all 2500 are on an equal playing field. more than half of those guys aren't even in the ballpark of a future NFL player. 5 star guys are supposed to be future high draft picks. more than half of the guys they rate as their best of the best of the best don't even sniff the nfl at all. can you not see why, in such an imperfect profession that people would doubt their opinions? no one is saying they could do a better job or those guys suck at their job. what we're trying to say is that their job, by it's nature, is highly unpredictable. that's why a lot of people try not to put a lot of stock into star ratings because they can be highly highly inaccurate
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:33 am to Rickdaddy4188
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At no point did i ever say its difinitive. Not one time. I've repeatedly said it's MY opinion that Lf is more talented than Hill because LF was a better highschool rb and LF had a better first year at lsu.
you've stated over and over that he's more talented and that you're right because people who get paid to analyze recruits said the same thing. you've said this same line about 47 times in this thread as if you say it enough times it will validate your opinion
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:36 am to lsufball19
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What we're trying to tell you is analyzing recruits is not anywhere in the ballpark of an accurate scienc
At no point did I say it was. I think you need to work on reading comprehension.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:37 am to Rickdaddy4188
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. I think you need to work on reading comprehension.
then why do you try to validate your opinion of Fournette based on how talented analysts said he was coming out of high school. Why keep repeating they get paid to do it? You clearly hold a very high value their opinions
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:40 am to lsufball19
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you've stated over and over that he's more talented and that you're right
Wow. I HAVE NEVER SAID YOU OR ME IS RIGHT. I wouldn't say that because I'm not dumb. I know these are opinions. At. No time have I ever said LF is more talented than Hill and I'm right. I gave my opinion and said that every recruiting site has the same opinion. I never said we were right because it's an OPINION.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:43 am to lsufball19
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:47 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Right because the opinions of people that get PAID to evaluate talent
I'm sure someone PAYS you money to do something your sorry arse sucks at too!
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:54 am to chilge1
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Do you think I care what football ignorant people say about me?
I'm using FACTS when i argue and you/they are using biased opinions.
It's a fact that LF is faster.
It's a fact that Hill wasn't a top 20 Rb in 2011.
It's a fact that every single recruiting site agrees with me and not you ignorant people. Deal with it.
I like Hill. He is my favorite lsu rb since Faulk but as far as talent goes, he doesn't have the TALENT that LF does ND every single recruiting site agrees with me.
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Right, little guy.
I deal in FACTS not biased opinion. Deal with it, boy.
If you knew football you would know LF is one of the most talented RBS to come out of high school since Reggie Bush. But you don't
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LF is more talented than Jeremy Hill and every person that gets paid to rank talented football players agree with me. I'll take that over some anonymous boy like you.
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When JHill was 19 he was NOT as talented as LF and every single person that GETS PAID to evaluate talent agrees with me.
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But people that get paid to evaluate talent all agree that when JHILL was LF'S age, he wasn't as talented
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All I said was LF is more talented and he is.
Sounds a lot more like you've been attempting to make a statement of irrefutable fact than merely stating an opinion.
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 8:58 am
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:07 am to say when
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I'm sure someone PAYS you money to do something your sorry arse sucks at too!
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:13 am to lsufball19
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Sounds a lot more like you've been attempting to make a statement of irrefutable fact than merely stating an opinion.
I think we have confused him in this thread... He is waffling bigtime............
Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:28 am to lsufball19
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you've stated over and over that he's more talented and that you're right
Wow. I HAVE NEVER SAID YOU OR ME IS RIGHT. I wouldn't say that because I'm not dumb. I know these are opinions. At. No time have I ever said LF is more talented than Hill and I'm right. I gave my opinion and said that every recruiting site has the same opinion. I never said we were right because it's an OPINION.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 7:00 pm to Rickdaddy4188
This thread is way too hostile; but I'll debate this point and then bow out
Being big, strong and fast does not make one a talented player, it means one has physical gifts. I mentioned Dalton Hilliard before, he was a below average physical specimen. Hell, Garry James had a lot more speed and was a good bit bigger than him, but Hilliard had more talent at running the ball, and that's why Hilliard rushed for 4000 yds in college and started a number of years in the NFL, and James didn't.
quote:That's just it; it DOES.
Except you're the dumbass that thinks TALENT equals production.
Being big, strong and fast does not make one a talented player, it means one has physical gifts. I mentioned Dalton Hilliard before, he was a below average physical specimen. Hell, Garry James had a lot more speed and was a good bit bigger than him, but Hilliard had more talent at running the ball, and that's why Hilliard rushed for 4000 yds in college and started a number of years in the NFL, and James didn't.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 7:14 pm to Scoob
Fournette will not see the field this season. There I said it.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:19 pm to tzimme4
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Fournette will not see the field this season. There I said it.
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