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re: Does LF rush for 1800 yards this season?
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:19 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:19 pm to lsufball19
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Based on rivals.com recruiting rankings, which have less than a 50% rate of their five stars even making a roster. Just think about that for a second.
Only 1 % of an entire recruiting class is 5 star. Yet 44% get drafted and 38% in the first round. That's pretty good.
Each year FBS schools sign about 2500 players each year and about 30 are given 5* status.
Picking 30 players out of 2500 and getting 44 % right is damn good.
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This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 8:22 pm
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:21 pm to dukke v
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Based on what??? Some recruiter with an opinion?????? Face it.. You can't come up with any concrete evidence that LF has more god given talent than Hill..........
Yeah I can. LF is stronger, just as big and A LOT faster.
JHILL ran a 4.66 at the combine. LF will obliterate that time.
LF was the 100 meter state champ. That's concrete evidence.
And again I never once said my or the recruiting sites opinions were fact. Because I'm not an idiot that tries to.pass my opinion off as fact. I'll leave that to you.
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:21 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Only 1% of a recruiting class is 5* recruits and yet 44% of them get drafted and 38% of them go first round.
so less than half of 5 star players are drafted. So you're admitting recruiting ranking talent evaluation is a very inexact science? So why is it a given LF is more talented based on said rankings? And why do you use said rankings to prove a point comparing LF to a guy who is one o the best proven backs in the NFL?
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:22 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Yeah I can. LF is stronger, just as big and A LOT faster.
JHILL ran a 4.66 at the combine. LF will obliterate that time.
LF was the 100 meter state champ. That's concrete evidence.
ok, now quantify his talent as a football player
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:26 pm to lsufball19
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less than half of 5 star players are drafted. So you're admitting recruiting ranking talent evaluation is a very inexact science? So why is it a given LF is more talented based on said rankings? And why do you use said rankings to prove a point comparing LF to a guy who is one o the best proven backs in the NFL
Show me where I said it was fact LF has more talent. Please. I said my opinion is that LF is more talented and every recruiting site agrees with me.
Also you act like picking 30 players out of 2500 to make it to the nfl and getting 44% of them right is easy and proves that recruiting site can't evaluate talent. It proves the exact opposite.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:26 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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LF is stronger
based on what... I saw Hill run over guys in hs and at LU just like LF has....
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just as big
OK....
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and A LOT faster.
Ok, but doesn't have the vision and the football quicknes to change direction and adapt to find another hole like Hill was able to do .....
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LF was the 100 meter state champ. That's concrete evidence.
Ok... Did Hill run track in HS?????? There is running speed and Football speed... There IS a difference.......... I saw Hill in HS have MANY MANY 60 plus yard runs....
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:27 pm to lsufball19
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, now quantify his talent as a football player
How many times do I have to say this?
I've never once said LF is a better rb than JHill. Not one time. I've even said JHILL has been more productive. I only said LF has more god given talen. That's it. I never said my opinion was fact.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:33 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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I only said LF has more god given talen
and i'm asking you to quantify his talent as a FOOTBALL player. There is more to being a talented FOOTBALL player than being big and running a fast 40 time. Much of this is why, despite not being as fast, Hill may very well be a more talented FOOTBALL player. There is a difference between being physically gifted and being talented. that's what I think you're failing to grasp. Yes, Fournette is a monster of a human being (so is Hill btw). Is he naturally more talnted as a FOOTBALL PLAYER? That's debatable and thus far, Fournette has a lot to prove in comparison to Hill.
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:34 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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I've never once said LF is a better rb than JHill. Not one time
I never said you did.............
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I've even said JHILL has been more productive
Yes you have...........
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I only said LF has more god given talen. That's it
But that doesn't mean you are right...........
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:34 pm to dukke v
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Ok, but doesn't have the vision and the football quicknes to change direction and adapt to find another hole like Hill was able to do .....
You have no idea if this is true. You are comparing what JHILL did at 22 years old( Cincy) and what he did at lsu while having the 2nd most prolific passing attack in lsu history to a 19 year old that ran against 10 man boxes every saturday.
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Ok... Did Hill run track in HS?????? There is running speed and Football speed.
Which LF has both.Hill doesn't. Hill doesn't have track speed.
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based on what..
LF benching 315 and squatting 600.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:36 pm to dukke v
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But that doesn't mean you are righ
Never said I was right. I just gave an opinion and said every recruiting site agrees with me.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:37 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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ran against 10 man boxes every saturday.
no he didn't
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LF benching 315 and squatting 600.
Jeremy Hill did too. There was actually a thread about it on here a few years ago LINK
btw, a 315 max for someone Fournette's size isn't exactly awe inspiring. Michael Ford put up over 400. Where is he these days btw? He was one of the strongest guys on the team, had over a 40 inch vertical, and ran close to a 4.4 40. He's playing in Canada now. Is he more talented than Hill too? Just God given talent though, not real talent, don't want to confuse things. he was a 5 star in high school as well
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 8:42 pm
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:39 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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You are comparing what JHILL did at 22 years old( Cincy
No I am not... I a strickly talking about Hill at LSU........
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Which LF has both.Hill doesn't
Ok. I give up... You don't know shite about what a quality rb does..........
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Hill doesn't have track speed.
He doesn't need to have track speed to be a great talent... Ok You DO hate Hill based on your posts in this thread... I have a feeling your are related to JJ... Are you related to LF as well???????????
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:45 pm to lsufball19
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that's what I think you're failing to grasp
Except no I'm not. Which is why I have been saying god given talent. I've repeatedly said LF, as of now, isn't a better rb. I've said this at least 10 times in this thread.
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That's debatable and thus far, Fournette has a lot to prove in comparison to H
Holy shite. You do realize that LF'S first year at lsu is more successful than JHill'JHILL'S right?
LF first year Compared to JHill'JHILL'S first year.
LF Has
1. More receiving yards
2. More rushing yards
3. More rushing yards per game
4. Higher yards per carry
5. LF led the sec in all purpose yards as a true freshman.
6. LF was 23Rd in the country in yards per kick return.
7 LF led the sec in all purpose yards per game.
And those numbers were put up with the worst passing attack in lsu history while JHILL played behind a better line and Mett.
Stop comparing JHILL'S production in 2013 to LF'S in 2014.
JHill had the 2nd most prolific passing attack in lsu history and LF had the worst.
Again, I'm not saying LF is the better rb.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:47 pm to lsufball19
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no he didn't
Yes he most certainly did. If you really think LF didn't run against 10 an fronts then you don't know what a 10 man front is. I'm not saying he always did but he did some.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:49 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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If you really think LF didn't run against 10 an fronts then you don't know what a 10 man front is. I'm not saying he always did but he did some.
i don't think you know what a 10 man front is
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:50 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Holy shite. You do realize that LF'S first year at lsu is more successful than JHill'JHILL'S right?
Yes it was... Hill played in the last 6 games as the main RB in 2012.... So yes LF had more chances than Hill did in both of their 1st years.....
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Stop comparing JHILL'S production in 2013 to LF'S in 2014
2013 was NOT Hills 1st year..... Get your FACTS straight..................
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:50 pm to dukke v
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He doesn't need to have track speed to be a great talent... Ok You DO hate Hill based on your posts in this thread..
Right except he is my 2nd favorite lsu rb ever.
I'm sorry that people that get paid to evaluate talent ( and they do it well) agree with me. I'll take their opinions over a yours any day.
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I have a feeling your are related to JJ.
Right because stating FACTS about JJ'S career means I'm related to him. IT'S NOT MY OPINION THAT JJ IS RANKED TOP 6 IN EVERY MAJOR PASSING STATISTIC IN LSU HISTORY. IT'S A frickING FACT. Deal with it boy.
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No I am not... I a strickly talking about Hill at LSU........
Who had a better first year? LF or Hill?
Who played with a better passing game? LF or Hill?
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:51 pm to lsufball19
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i don't think you know what a 10 man front is
I agree.............
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:52 pm to lsufball19
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don't think you know what a 10 man front is
Yeah I do. All but 1 in the box and he ran against it some. Mostly 8-9 man fronts but no one had over the top safety help against our passing attack.
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