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Posted on 3/15/23 at 3:03 pm to Thacian
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many players have these stats.
no, many players do not have those stats. All-star players do. Only 4 players in the entirety of MLB baseball hit .315 or higher last year. Only one hit 30 or more HRs and hit .315 or higher, Paul Goldschmidt. He was the National League MVP
Posted on 3/15/23 at 3:05 pm to Thacian
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My point was it dont matter who achieves them. 1 tool or 20 tool player, that said person will be on a mlb roster starting.
why don't you focus on Gavin Dugas and not a random statline. How likely do you think it is that he hits .315 against professional pitching when his career high batting average in college has been .306? People who put up those types of numbers up in the majors have quite a few tools that you seem to think don't matter. There doesn't exist a major league baseball player who has those numbers with marginal tools
And I hope you realize that Dugas was draft eligible after his 2021 season. It was a reduced draft but still had 20 rounds. He was not drafted. He wasn't drafted last year either. And now you're projecting him to be a future major leaguer? I mean I hope he proves me wrong, but I really don't know why you want to die on this hill.
This post was edited on 3/15/23 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 3/15/23 at 3:10 pm to Blutarsky
Let's play a game of who's career would you rather have?
Dugas or Doughty
Dugas or Doughty
Posted on 3/15/23 at 3:14 pm to lsufball19
quote:you should read the thread. Its gone in 5 different directions
why don't you focus on Gavin Dugas and not a random statline.
i never said dugas was hitting 315 or was talking about Dugas specifically during that reply. If you think a person has to have several tools to be able to hit a baseball using good timing/good hand/eye, muscle power and hand speed then you are absolutely incorrect. The mere fact that others here say dugas cant achieve those types of stats in pro ball being a 1 or 2 tool guy is wrong. shite he should be on the bench now right? Im my experiences lsu ball is probably AA level comp. That 1 tool guy is surely raking. Haters gonna hate. This post was edited on 3/15/23 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 3/15/23 at 3:15 pm to sonicbaw350
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Let's play a game of who's career would you rather have?
Dugas or Doughty
The one that gives me an $800k+ signing bonus
Posted on 3/15/23 at 3:18 pm to Thacian
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If you think a person has to have several tools to be able to hit a baseball using good hand/eye,muscle power and hand speed then you are absolutely incorrect.
If they have those things, they have several tools. Are you drunk right now?
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shite he should be on the bench now right?
No. You can be a really good college player without being a MLB prospect. Happens all the time. See Antoine Duplantis, Eddy Furniss, Blake Dean, etc.
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Im my experiences lsu ball is probably AA level comp
you can't be serious. But if you truly believe this, then it explains the rest of your takes ITT. At absolute best, SEC baseball is a comp for low A ball, and that's even a stretch because all SEC players aren't as good as low A ball players. You really need to go look at the numbers our All-SEC caliber players put up once they start playing professionally. Raph Rhymes hit .431 at LSU and hit .256 and .220 in his 2 seasons in A ball. I think you are completely oblivious to how good professional baseball players are compared to college players.This post was edited on 3/15/23 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 3/15/23 at 3:19 pm to Thacian
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He is every bit as good as any "baseball" player on lsu's team or in the country.
This simply isn’t a fact. You can be objective and realistic, and still be a fan of the team and players.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 3:20 pm to Thacian
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Im my experiences lsu ball is probably AA level comp.
It's really, really not. It's very far from AA. You have some pretty fundamental misunderstandings about all of this.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 3:20 pm to Thacian
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Im my experiences lsu ball is probably AA level comp.
Absolutely not
Posted on 3/15/23 at 3:23 pm to lsufball19
Ok then whats GD's rating?
Media writers know everything, i forgot.
Media writers know everything, i forgot.
This post was edited on 3/15/23 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 3/15/23 at 3:29 pm to Thacian
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And yes the sec/lsu level is about as equivalent to AA ball in the minor leagues.
It's really not. And repeating it doesn't make it so.
The 14 SEC rosters vary wildly from each other in amount of talent, and the players one each roster vary more wildly from each other in talent.
SEC baseball rosters have guys that vary in age from 18 up to 23. Some of those players may be good enough to play AA right now. The overwhelming majority of the players will never be good enough to even play short season ball.
The reality is that the level of play in the SEC is around Low A on Friday nights and just above complex ball on Sundays. Somewhere in between on Saturday.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 3:31 pm to Thacian
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And yes the sec/lsu level is about as equivalent to AA ball in the minor leagues.
JFC you couldn't be any more wrong. Normally I'd assume you were trolling
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Ok then whats GD's rating?
Dugas will either go undrafted or get drafted with ~$20k signing bonus. That's just reality. Tim Elko is a great comp for Dugas. 5th year player, hit 24 HRs last year and was a .300 career hitter at Ole Miss....he was drafted in the 10th round and got a $35k signing bonus. He hit .240 in A ball over 96 at bats. He's old and does not project as a major league baseball player either. But that's ok, and Ole Miss fans should and do love him for what he did for their team.
Blake Dean was one of the best hitters in LSU history. In his one season of A ball, after an ok year in rookie ball, he hit .237 with 7 HRs and retired. Antoine Duplantis was also one of the best and most consistent hitters in LSU history. His career BA in the minors was .228 and he was released and never resigned after mid 2022. There are dozens of really great college players just from LSU who shared similar fates.
This post was edited on 3/15/23 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 3/15/23 at 3:36 pm to lsufball19
Can you agree that GD can hit better than .240 or do better in his first 100 at-bats? If healthy, I think he can.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 3:39 pm to Thacian
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Can you agree that GD can hit better than .240 or do better in his first 100 at-bats? If healthy, I think he can.
First 100 pro at bats for a college player is generally a very poor way to evaluate someone as a prospect.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 3:41 pm to ProjectP2294
I was only using a comparison to Elko. But of course, you knew that Mr know it all who never played baseball.
This post was edited on 3/15/23 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 3/15/23 at 3:42 pm to Thacian
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Can you agree that GD can hit better than .240 or do better in his first 100 at-bats?
Is it possible he can hit .240 in A ball? Sure. That also doesn't get him to the major leagues either. I think you totally underestimate how difficult it is to get to AA ball, much less past it and all the way to the major leagues. At his age, Dugas would need to come out hitting .300 with 25+ HRs in A ball by next season to have a chance. What's more likely is he doesn't, plays a few seasons of minor league ball, and is released. Which is the reality for the vast majority of professional baseball players, all of whom were good college (or high school) players. There are approximately 10,000 division 1 college baseball players. Of those 10,000, only about 500 are drafted each year in a normal draft. Of those 500, only about 50 make it to the major leagues (roughly 10% of minor league players ever get called up). Those odds are going to be stacked up against a 23 year old with marginal tools
Posted on 3/15/23 at 3:42 pm to Thacian
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Inwas only using a comparison to Elko. But of course you knew that Mr know it all who never played baseball.
why would i know that? i'm not in your head.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 3:44 pm to lsufball19
I can agree.
Can you agree that this years stats are close between Crews and Dugas?. Crews is better and given the comp so far we can maybe wait and see how it pans out but with your opinion about Dugas above, does the same hold true for Crews for the minor leagues?
Can you agree that this years stats are close between Crews and Dugas?. Crews is better and given the comp so far we can maybe wait and see how it pans out but with your opinion about Dugas above, does the same hold true for Crews for the minor leagues?
This post was edited on 3/15/23 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 3/15/23 at 3:45 pm to ProjectP2294
Well try reading "1" thread/reply above mine. Facts, that your trolling me mr. mod who sees i report him for flaming others
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