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re: Do you think the refs really cheat at Auburn?

Posted on 9/17/08 at 11:39 am to
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 9/17/08 at 11:39 am to
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If running the same exact route but this time unabated by a defender, Doucet would have a 0% chance of catching that ball.


110% correct.
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 9/17/08 at 11:43 am to
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Do you think the refs really cheat at Auburn?


You can honestly say that the PI late in the game being lifted could have been a bad call alone.

A stationary Lafell getting assraped in the endzone and having the ball bounce off his chest because his hands were being held down with no call is straining credulity.

Hester's 4th down completion (taking us into FG range and changing the end game situation entirely), taking two full strides, who later gets the ball knocked out by an Auburn defender being reviewed and overturned into incomplete pass has no possible plausible excuse or explaination other than sheer bias.
This post was edited on 9/17/08 at 11:44 am
Posted by meauxjeaux2
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Posted on 9/17/08 at 11:44 am to
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This post was edited on 9/17/08 at 11:54 am
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
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Posted on 9/17/08 at 11:44 am to
adam you are so fricking stupid. watching nuts repeatedly own you with logic is the only good thing about this pathetic thread. why don't you go start another thread about how superior the hornets are to the spurs and how they have ZERO shot at making any adjustments? or you could always start one about how great john brady is. pathetic
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 9/17/08 at 11:45 am to
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110% correct.


I don't think anyone argues that.

But it is still PI, because it occured BEFORE the event that made the ball uncatchable.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 9/17/08 at 11:48 am to
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the event that made the ball uncatchable.
The event that made the ball uncatchable was the relationship between the trajectories of a) the ball and b) Doucet. The two objects never would have met, even if blue jerseys were nowhere to be found.

There was no pass interference. If you understand the rules of football and physics, we would be in agreement.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 9/17/08 at 11:50 am to
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But it is still PI, because it occured BEFORE the event that made the ball uncatchable.


Don't really want to get into this too much again, but if I was an LSU fan, I think the position that illegal contact or defensive holding occured is a MUCH more defendable position. It diminishes the question of catchable or not and although the contact may have occured a fraction of a second before the tip, defending that position is weak since the ball was NOT going to be caught regardless.
This post was edited on 9/17/08 at 11:50 am
Posted by TIGERSby10
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Posted on 9/17/08 at 11:57 am to
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Do you think the refs really cheat at Auburn?


Since I am an LSU fan, I will say yes. A non-biased answer would be that the horrific calls the past two years at Jordan Hare were just coincidentally favoring the home team.

All I have to say is that if this game is determined by the refs to favor Auburn, I will be convinced that they do get paid.

One year = maybe
Two years = pushing it
Three years = refs' early retirement
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
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Posted on 9/17/08 at 12:01 pm to
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It’s just a big coincidence that Auburn and Bama are the least penalized teams in the SEC—year after year after year


Maybe the commit less penalties, are coached to make less, or coached on how to hide better. That is more reasoable that a huge conspiracy.
Posted by TIGERSby10
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Posted on 9/17/08 at 12:04 pm to
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Maybe the commit less penalties, are coached to make less, or coached on how to hide better. That is more reasoable that a huge conspiracy



I watched the replays a thousand times and they are not commiting less penalties, the penalties are not being called or called but then waived off.
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 9/17/08 at 12:05 pm to
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The event that made the ball uncatchable was the relationship between the trajectories of a) the ball and b) Doucet. The two objects never would have met, even if blue jerseys were nowhere to be found.


Please prove this one to me....just went back to watch the video and the only thing that kept the ball from going into Doucet's waiting hands was the tip by the Auburn defender.

It was a catchable pass when the penalty occurred.
Posted by TiegerTim
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Posted on 9/17/08 at 12:07 pm to
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john brady is. pathetic



now you're really going to tick him off...
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
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Posted on 9/17/08 at 12:07 pm to
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Maybe the commit less penalties, are coached to make less, or coached on how to hide better. That is more reasoable that a huge conspiracy.



This would be plausible, but if you go back and watch the film, this is not true. Both teams committed holding against us up the wazoo.

And can someone correct me here...I seem to remember that each SEC team's (or at least an eye opening majority) most penalized games happened to be when they played either Auburn or Alabama. Could be BS hearsay though
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 9/17/08 at 12:09 pm to
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Please prove this one to me
I can't. It's an official's judgment call, and I happen to agree with his judgment on this particular play. I find it to have been an uncatchable ball, therefore eliminating pass interference as a possible call.
Posted by liquid rabbit
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Posted on 9/17/08 at 12:12 pm to
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I find it to have been an uncatchable ball

You may want to go ahead and schedule that eye exam then. Oh, and while you're at it, schedule the Aubie refs also.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 9/17/08 at 12:12 pm to
The consipracy theories get funnier and funnier.
Posted by xiv
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Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 9/17/08 at 12:15 pm to
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You may want to go ahead and schedule that eye exam then. Oh, and while you're at it, schedule the Aubie refs also.

Every official on the field that day and every official in the SEC office agrees with me, and I have been accused of:
a) being crazy
b) being retarded
c) being blind
d) hating LSU
e) loving Auburn
f) living all 28 years of my life without ever having seen a single game of American football
g) having sex with John Brady.

Maybe you people are the ones who are crazy, retarded, blind, filled with hatred for LSU, unfamiliar with football, and sleeping with John Brady.

Ever think of that?
This post was edited on 9/17/08 at 12:17 pm
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
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Posted on 9/17/08 at 12:19 pm to
What conspriacy theory? It is a proven fact that 1) there was at least one unobjective participant in the reffing for that one game, and 2) there is no question that the objectivity of refs across the board is not a given anymore. And it will only get worse as the conferences shield them from any reprisal and responsibility.

For example, the OU game a few years back against a Pac-10 team (Oregon?), the ref not only makes a bad call, BUT PRETENDS AND PLAYACTS LIKE HE SEES EVIDENCE THAT HAPPENS TO HELP HIS CONFERENCE WHEN VIDEO EVIDENCE SHOWS THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE. Specifically, he is seen going through a dogpile to determine who has the ball, the ball emerges on the far side in the hands of an OU player (ref is still digging to get to the bottom of it), then pauses like he sees something, and then calls it Oregon's ball...even though the actual ball was about 20 yards OUT of the pile.

The penalty for this should be instant dismissal. What he actually got? A one game suspension. OOOO that'll teach him.
This post was edited on 9/17/08 at 12:27 pm
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 9/17/08 at 12:20 pm to
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therefore eliminating pass interference as a possible call.


but it still would have been a penalty, resulting in a first down for LSU....
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
3079 posts
Posted on 9/17/08 at 12:21 pm to
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a) being crazy
b) being retarded
c) being blind
d) hating LSU
e) loving Auburn
f) living all 28 years of my life without ever having seen a single game of American football
g) having sex with John Brady.


I would have never guessed... you having sex with John Brady!!!!
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