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Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:15 am to RBWilliams8
Yes this is true as well, JJ sure took a ton of sacks for being a "mobile" QB.. Holding onto the ball and not much pocket awareness at times.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:16 am to GoDucks349
Now, something Lee has that JJ doesn't is the ability to use the whole field to check off on receivers and a much faster release.
And he said in an interview the other day that he knows the system like "the back of his hand".
And he said in an interview the other day that he knows the system like "the back of his hand".
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:17 am to GoDucks349
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Does Lee "force" many passes? He's a senior, he should be smart enough to throw it in the stands if everyone's covered.
18 td's 18 int's...what does that tell you? Lee doesn't like to take a sack, so his problem is he just tosses it up sometimes. He has a very good arm, pretty accurate, and extremely quick release. I think he struggles mightily with leadership though and that'll be the biggest test. Everyone keeps comparing JJ and JL simply on the field, but it's off the field stuff that seperated them.
This JJ crap is not good and being blown way out of proportion, imo, but I think it also shows he had teammate's backs and they had his. Just kinda my take on it. The fanbase is split on whether they have confidence in JL or not, I just hope the players aren't because reports were JJ was the unquestioned leader of the team.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:18 am to SouljaBreauxTellEm
I'm not bashing JJ but "it is what it is". I hate JJ's fate but we can't act like we haven't been calling for someone else for the past couple years.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:18 am to NC_Tigah
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Difference between JJ and Lee
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Can Lee take a hit?
See, there's the problem. In the SEC we don't allow hits on the QB.
Thought you guys played defense in the SEC.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:20 am to GoDucks349
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Can Lee take a hit?
yeah, but he also fades back from pressure and throws off his back foot at times. scares the shite outta me.
on the other hand, when he gets in a groove passing, it's fun to watch.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:20 am to GoDucks349
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Thought you guys played defense in the SEC
Dont act like you didn't find this out already... Was your last game that hard to remember?
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:21 am to LSUButt
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Does Lee "force" many passes? He's a senior, he should be smart enough to throw it in the stands if everyone's covered.
18 td's 18 int's...what does that tell you? Lee doesn't like to take a sack, so his problem is he just tosses it up sometimes. He has a very good arm, pretty accurate, and extremely quick release. I think he struggles mightily with leadership though and that'll be the biggest test. Everyone keeps comparing JJ and JL simply on the field, but it's off the field stuff that seperated them.
This JJ crap is not good and being blown way out of proportion, imo, but I think it also shows he had teammate's backs and they had his. Just kinda my take on it. The fanbase is split on whether they have confidence in JL or not, I just hope the players aren't because reports were JJ was the unquestioned leader of the team.
Wasn't really wanting to get into the off field stuff. That is what it is. More interested in QB style and what to expect from Lee
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:22 am to RBWilliams8
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we can't act like we haven't been calling for someone else for the past couple years.
I sure as hell wasn't calling for Lee. I was calling for Mett if anyone. I'll give credit where credit is due with Lee, the dude has gone through some shite. You get Shep here as a dual-threat QB, thought Lee would never play again...Zach Lee comes in, never thought Lee would play again, Mett comes here, never thought Lee would play again. Yet here we are in one of our toughest schedules ever with one of the biggest games we've ever had on the horizon, and Lee is our starter.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:22 am to NC_Tigah
I hate what is happening with Jefferson but my god people we were 109th in offense. Jefferson sucks let's face it. We hear rumors of improvement none of which were substantiated. I was at the spring gane and jefferson was awful. He has apparently not done much better based on what we've heard of the summer practices and scrimmages. At least with Lee there will be some excitement. Having jefferson at QB is like owning a ferrari with no keys to start the engine.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:23 am to RBWilliams8
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Difference between JJ and Lee
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Thought you guys played defense in the SEC
Dont act like you didn't find this out already... Was your last game that hard to remember?
Ease up, that was a joke. The guy posted some SEC BS and I was just sort of calling him on it.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:25 am to GoDucks349
But seriously, if anyone could have lost a senior starter and get away with it it's this one. You had to have been on this board, at games or tailgating the pat few years in baton rouge to understand.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:25 am to GoDucks349
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Wasn't really wanting to get into the off field stuff. That is what it is. More interested in QB style and what to expect from Lee
I hear ya. I was just mentioning the fact that sometimes Lee looks a little disoriented at times. Lee will make great passes then do things you're just saying "Why in the world would you do that?" I'm not a fan of a QB who literally cannot move and is just a statue. Lee cannot run out of sight in a day and if the pocket breaks down (which has been a problem in the past because of pass blocking), he just throws aimlessly.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:27 am to GoDucks349
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what to expect from Lee
the good
- good arm, can make all the throws
- quick release
- throws the ball away more than he used to
- can move around in the pocket, though not a runner
- has been known to come thru in clutch situations
- can get on a roll with his accuracy and carve up a D
- can take a licking and keep on ticking
the bad
- will lock on to a favorite receiver at times
- will throw off back foot
- will rely on his arm and force throws
- all of the above lead to some nerve racking moments including, but not limited to, INTs
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:27 am to ATLTiger
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Difference between JJ and Lee
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Can Lee take a hit?
yeah, but he also fades back from pressure and throws off his back foot at times. scares the shite outta me.
on the other hand, when he gets in a groove passing, it's fun to watch.
I got ya. Thanks...... Definitely understand those problems. Look up Brady Leaf (Ryan Leaf's brother). Brady took over after Dennis Dixon went down a couple years back.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:27 am to LSUButt
Lee does look to be in the best physical shape of his life.
He has lost 20-30 pounds, and claims to be faster.
I hope this to be a factor in his effectiveness.
He has lost 20-30 pounds, and claims to be faster.
I hope this to be a factor in his effectiveness.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:30 am to GoDucks349
Jefferson's rushing yards was the difference between LSU being a mediocre rushing team and a 28th ranked rushing team.
When Jefferson played, LBs had to keep an eye on Jefferson. That's particularly helpful in short yardage situations. Jefferson was ranked as the #2 QB in redzone efficiency in 2009. Jefferson's presence helped our rushing game even when Jefferson wasn't carrying the ball.
When Jefferson played, LBs had to keep an eye on Jefferson. That's particularly helpful in short yardage situations. Jefferson was ranked as the #2 QB in redzone efficiency in 2009. Jefferson's presence helped our rushing game even when Jefferson wasn't carrying the ball.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:32 am to just me
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Difference between JJ and Lee
Jefferson's rushing yards was the difference between LSU being a mediocre rushing team and a 28th ranked rushing team.
When Jefferson played, LBs had to keep an eye on Jefferson. That's particularly helpful in short yardage situations. Jefferson was ranked as the #2 QB in redzone efficiency in 2009. Jefferson's presence helped our rushing game even when Jefferson wasn't carrying the ball.
Good point. But with Ware and company (O-line) you guys should be able to pick up 2 yards in tough situations.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:33 am to SouljaBreauxTellEm
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Difference between JJ and Lee
Lee does look to be in the best physical shape of his life.
He has lost 20-30 pounds, and claims to be faster.
I hope this to be a factor in his effectiveness.
This sounds SO MUCH like Brady Leaf from a few years back.
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