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re: Did Chavis' coming in save LES?
Posted on 10/26/09 at 11:15 pm to mytigger
Posted on 10/26/09 at 11:15 pm to mytigger
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you can't be serious
Fine, I'll explain the reasoning. First of all, Les would be owed an insane amount of money, at a time where LSU's funding is being lowered. Second of all, if you fire a coach less than 3 years removed from a National Champion, you have set horrible precedent and would be lucky to get a third rate coach to take over. Third of all, his record at LSU is 48–12 and hes 26–11 in the SEC. To put those numbers in perspective, Urban Meyer is 51–9 and 31–8 in the SEC. Very similar, and you have to take into account the Tebow effect. If you really think Les's seat is even luke warm, at this point I don't know what to tell ya.
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Posted on 10/26/09 at 11:17 pm to Jcorye1
For those bad at math, thats a 70.27% SEC win percentage for Les and a 79.49% SEC win percentage for Urban.
Posted on 10/26/09 at 11:26 pm to Jcorye1
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For those bad at math, thats a 70.27% SEC win percentage for Les and a 79.49% SEC win percentage for Urban.
We can expect a dip after Tebow leaves ( you can't lose the #1 player in college football, leave alone your team and not have repercussions) - what would be interesting is the UF fanbase response. Will they turn ugly ala the rantards or give the man some breathing space.
Posted on 10/26/09 at 11:27 pm to CalTiger
Yep. Don't get me wrong, I hate Tim Tebow with ever fiber of my being, but to say he wasn't one of the top 10 college football players of all time is ignorant.
Posted on 10/26/09 at 11:35 pm to Jcorye1
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Yep. Don't get me wrong, I hate Tim Tebow with ever fiber of my being, but to say he wasn't one of the top 10 college football players of all time is ignorant.
If only there were a place where we could go and read the opinions of the truly ignorant, biased and egotistic armchair coaches - where I wonder!!
Posted on 10/27/09 at 12:06 am to GeauxSaintsandTigers
It is certainly making his life a little easier.
Posted on 10/27/09 at 2:44 am to DaSaltyTiger
the co d coordinator decision was def. a bad call by miles, but it was not his first choice. he went hard after muschamp last year and i believe he thought that he had him in the bag to replace pellini. he struck out on that due to the head coach in waiting thing w/ texas and made a last minute decision to go w/ co coordinators. he corrected his mistake and did a much better job in his search for a dc this year.
Posted on 10/27/09 at 2:52 am to Jcorye1
You are wrong. If Les had kept Peveto and Mallory in their capacity, the funds would have been raised to buy him out after this year. I am assuming you have no clue how bad of a disaster that could have been. Another bad hire would have had the same consequences.
That was one of the worst coaching hires in my memory. Even worse than Lou Tepper, because Tepper actually had experience coming in. Les had to redeem himself, it was a very bad case of poor judgement.
That was one of the worst coaching hires in my memory. Even worse than Lou Tepper, because Tepper actually had experience coming in. Les had to redeem himself, it was a very bad case of poor judgement.
Posted on 10/27/09 at 3:09 am to CalTiger
Well, you have to be realistic when comparing UF and LSU under Meyer and Miles. 3 games difference, both had a down year, but Miles' down year was really bad. And while we made two SEC championship games in Les' first 4 years, and won one NC, Meyers has one 2 SEC and National championships in 3 years, and came to a less loaded team than Les did (although it wasn't by much).
In the end, this season will define Miles' more than the NC season did. It's not just Chavis saving his tail, but Cooper too. The only question to this point on defense has been Brick Haley, and our DL seems to be improving, albeit slowly. Might be a short stay for Brick if we don't get a lot better in that area.
The bigger question for Miles will be Crowton after this season. He still sucks at developing QBs and his stubborn playcalling and the fact teams have somewhat figured him out has upset fans. I will say this though, despite a few hiccups, he called this last game extremely well and JJ improved a lot from the UF game.
In the end, this season will define Miles' more than the NC season did. It's not just Chavis saving his tail, but Cooper too. The only question to this point on defense has been Brick Haley, and our DL seems to be improving, albeit slowly. Might be a short stay for Brick if we don't get a lot better in that area.
The bigger question for Miles will be Crowton after this season. He still sucks at developing QBs and his stubborn playcalling and the fact teams have somewhat figured him out has upset fans. I will say this though, despite a few hiccups, he called this last game extremely well and JJ improved a lot from the UF game.
Posted on 10/27/09 at 3:15 am to GeauxBob
I honestly believe if the offense shows up as they did vs Auburn people will soon forget the criticism of Crowton. If not, Les has another tough choice to make.
Posted on 10/27/09 at 3:25 am to RogerTheShrubber
Agreed. I think JJ's development will also be a key factor too though. Either way, I hope Crowton proves to have learned from his past stops.
Posted on 10/27/09 at 6:18 am to GeauxSaintsandTigers
Save Miles from what??????????????
Posted on 10/27/09 at 7:35 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Les had to redeem himself, it was a very bad case of poor judgement.
every leader is judged more by how they respond to their mistakes, than by the actual mistakes themselves. If the fix proves to be the right one, the mistake is typically forgiven. Saban had a similar situation with the Applewhite hire, and cut his losses after a 7-6 year.
Posted on 10/27/09 at 7:37 am to GeauxSaintsandTigers
Les would have been here for 3 more years no matter the situation, that would make the answer no/
Posted on 10/27/09 at 7:38 am to GeauxSaintsandTigers
Well, Maleveto would not have allowed Les to keep his job so Chavis is a step in the right direction.
Posted on 10/27/09 at 7:44 am to GeauxSaintsandTigers
i don't understand why people are suprised at how the defense is playing.
Posted on 10/27/09 at 7:47 am to Jcorye1
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if you fire a coach less than 3 years removed from a National Champion, you have set horrible precedent and would be lucky to get a third rate coach to take over
This is why I don't understand everyone who wants to get rid of Miles. He just won a NC two years ago, he then went 8-5 with a freshman QB and a young defense, we still have a young QB and a much better defense now. NO coach in their right mind would ever take this job if we get rid of Miles. Les has shown he will address issues and make the right hires (except for The Malvetto Experiement)
Posted on 10/27/09 at 7:49 am to GeauxBob
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It's not just Chavis saving his tail, but Cooper too. The only question to this point on defense has been Brick Haley, and our DL seems to be improving, albeit slowly. Might be a short stay for Brick if we don't get a lot better in that area.
I think most folks realize that the experienced talent level on the d-line is not what we're used to. There are some young guys that have a ton of potential, so I don't see any jumping to the gun yet with Brick...
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The bigger question for Miles will be Crowton after this season. He still sucks at developing QBs and his stubborn playcalling and the fact teams have somewhat figured him out has upset fans.
at this point there is a good possibility that we'll look back at the end of the season and see that the staff handled the offense the right way. They stuck with what they were doing (much to the dismay of the fans) in order to let JJ continue to develop around the full offense. Miles comment from yesterday highlights this...
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I think it’s more of a question of having him see enough and have enough experiences so that when he goes to the game and things change that he is very comfortable with how it should read out and how it should work.
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There’s no ability for a coach to take you beyond experience. You don’t need this look. No, you need you every look. You need as many snaps as you can get, and then, it helps him translate those plays in a game more effectively, especially for a guy that has the talent that he has.”
Posted on 10/27/09 at 7:53 am to GeauxSaintsandTigers
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Chavis is coaching Mallory & Paveto's players. They deserve alot of credit for his success.
Man that was a good one! Thanks for the laugh
Posted on 10/27/09 at 8:40 am to Jcorye1
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For those bad at math, thats a 70.27% SEC win percentage for Les and a 79.49% SEC win percentage for Urban.
ok?
also, urban is what 8-6 versus SEC West teams? what is Les' record? i think it is 17-5.
This post was edited on 10/27/09 at 8:47 am
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