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re: Detillier says he believes Canada is out

Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:41 pm to
Posted by VooDude
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:41 pm to
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What did O think he was getting in Canada? The same thing we all thought we would see. We thought his gameplan was diverse and the only reason PITT used as much trickery is because they were not as talented across the board than LSU.
Canada is not a victim here the way that some are making him out to be. I think the stories in mid-season were a little misconstrued and made O out to be the bad guy. He deserved some of the blame, but Canada was fcking up.

People bitched about the dumb penalties early on and a lot of it had to do with the OC's prep with the offense. This team was not focused and executing the offense Canada was running.

People make fun of O saying he isn't a true head coach and doesn't have a specialty, but when he does step in he's wrong. I tell you this, he wasn't my first choice but I respect him for making a CEO decision to put Canada in check. The offense cost us games this year. He had every right to say something. Canada's feeling hurt, he needs to go where he is the alpha male. Ready for Briles or Freeze.
Aside from coaches as desperate in their careers as Briles or Freeze to step in, what do you do if they leave for other coaching vacancies (e.g. a situation similar to Kiffin jumping to FAU)? Keep attracting a pyramid scheme's worth of coaches, each one being of less quality than their predecessor? Who'd want to work for an idiot, a toxic one at that, with no job security as the cherry on top? The ship's sinking and no OC in their right mind wants their name/legacy on the tombstone.
This post was edited on 12/17/17 at 8:42 pm
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42036 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:43 pm to
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Sure if I was hearing it from someone who heard it... I heard it from a current LSU position coach



Do they care?
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42036 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:44 pm to
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 at fans


You laughing with or at?

Lol
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42036 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:45 pm to
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Who'd want to work for an idiot, a toxic one at that, with no job security as the cherry on top?


If I was free to do my job wouldn't care too much
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:49 pm to
at, it is rather pathetic...
Posted by AnActualFan
Work
Member since Mar 2010
927 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:52 pm to
tdeucen: Well, any whispers about who we are looking at for OC? The OL hire was ninja like, would be cool for it to go down like that again.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42036 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:52 pm to
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at, it is rather pathetic...


I am not sure why I am pathetic lol

Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22357 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 9:00 pm to
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Who'd want to work for an idiot, a toxic one at that, with no job security as the cherry on top?


I don't know, maybe getting 1.5 million per year would be enough incentive.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 9:13 pm to
No idea, I don't ask questions and let the alcohol due the questions
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42036 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 9:18 pm to
So Line coach probably not hired by Canada
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 9:26 pm to
Nope not hired by Canada hired by O... what does it matter?
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 9:27 pm to
quote:

Sure if I was hearing it from someone who heard it... I heard it from a current LSU position coach



No you didn’t.

Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7777 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 9:28 pm to
It's very obvious that they want Canada gone but are not sure how to do it yet.

He doesn't want to be here. O doesn't want him here. LSU doesn't want to pay him and he doesn't want to not get paid.

What's the solution? I'm sure that's what they're trying to figure out.

We'll probably know more after signing day. I'm thinking it's announced that he's leaving to pursue other opportunities and they reach some kind of settlement on a buy out.

Then O promotes Ensminger. Maybe he brings on another OC but the press conference was telling.

I have no insider knowledge but it's pretty easy to read if you're not in denial.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42036 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 9:29 pm to
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It's very obvious that they want Canada gone but are not sure how to do it yet. 




Why bc TD says so


All I know is awkward O comments is there emore?
This post was edited on 12/17/17 at 9:33 pm
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 9:34 pm to
I'll bet you a bar tab at Chimes
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7777 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 9:34 pm to
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Why bc TD days so


All I know is awkward O comments is there emore?



1. The well known fight they had regarding the Troy game
2. The well documented meeting between them and Alleva - This DOES NOT happen in a non-disfunctional relationship
3. The ongoing smoke from so many sources, including those who personally know Orgeron
4. The fact that O basically all but said he wants him to get a HC job - that would have been the easiest solution for all parties. Yes, HCs want their coordinators to move up, but it doesn't take a genius to see how it was said to see that it was more like, "I hope he leaves."
5. Why even mention Ensminger? No one does that unless there's more to it. Have you ever heard of a HC start talking about a replacement when the current coordinator is still on staff and hasn't even interviewed?
6. Multiple people claiming that Canada and his fiancee don't like it here. Could be rumor but lots of smoke.
7. Canada is notoriously hard to get along with.



People can't wrap their minds around it but it's clear that he's gone.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42036 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 9:38 pm to
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Why even mention Ensminger? No one does that unless there's more to it. Have you ever heard of a HC start talking about a replacement when the current coordinator is still on staff and hasn't even interviewed? 


That quote was I would want Ensminger like

Not I want Ensminger

I have no idea. I agree the question and how O answered it was awkward.

The Alleva thing is a known meeting. I thought he was reviewing film lol
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22357 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 12:48 am to
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It's very obvious that they want Canada gone but are not sure how to do it yet.

He doesn't want to be here. O doesn't want him here. LSU doesn't want to pay him and he doesn't want to not get paid.

What's the solution? I'm sure that's what they're trying to figure out.

We'll probably know more after signing day. I'm thinking it's announced that he's leaving to pursue other opportunities and they reach some kind of settlement on a buy out.

Then O promotes Ensminger. Maybe he brings on another OC but the press conference was telling.

I have no insider knowledge but it's pretty easy to read if you're not in denial.




That's pretty much spot on, IMO. The only thing that I disagree with is Ensminger becoming the OC. I don't think he wants the job, and Coach O knows that he needs to make an impressive hire.
Posted by Tigahtildeath
Member since Aug 2017
640 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 5:00 am to
News will be released after signing period. Will have some mad players and parents about the dishonesty of leaving after signing day.
This post was edited on 12/18/17 at 5:01 am
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 6:19 am to
Where is he going ?

LSU isn’t buying him out, and he’s not making a lateral move.

If LSU lets him go , after one year, who is going to come work for O? He couldn’t even get his first choice the first time which is why he has Canada, and now y’all want to Pooh Pooh the hire and pretend like #OCanada wasn’t a thing all fricking offseason.

I swear I think if Orgeron told y’all the sky was green and the grass was blue y’all sit there and nod in agreement like mindless drones
This post was edited on 12/18/17 at 6:21 am
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