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Deep down inside
Posted on 1/9/10 at 7:08 am
Posted on 1/9/10 at 7:08 am
i feel like our program will be like v.t. winning season every year but never reach the pinnacle. the hard part, is deciding if this is acceptable to me or not. you see, i can remember the bad years.
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Posted on 1/9/10 at 7:13 am to tigerdup07
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the hard part, is deciding if this is acceptable to me or not
It it absolutely not acceptable to simply have a winning season. There are plenty of good teams. We should strive for National Championships and be disappointed(not suicidal) when we do not get them.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 7:16 am to tigerdup07
I had this exact thought while watching the bowl games. I also think it's very similar to Charlie Mac's run here at LSU which lasted 17 years. Was that acceptable then? Were people frequently calling for Mac's head when he dropped 3 or 4 games?
Posted on 1/9/10 at 7:16 am to tigerdup07
I wouldn't be opposed to a having a program like Tech in the SEC. That would mean winning regular season titles and the BSC on a regular basis.
You can't expect to have national titles every three years. They come along very rarely.
Trouble is, Les Miles isn't going to keep us as a program who will regularly win SEC titles.
You can't expect to have national titles every three years. They come along very rarely.
Trouble is, Les Miles isn't going to keep us as a program who will regularly win SEC titles.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 7:21 am to Lacour
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Trouble is, Les Miles isn't going to keep us as a program who will regularly win SEC titles.
Correct, because this isn't the ACC. But you can have the same record in the SEC and come in 2nd-5th place possibly.
Not good enough for me.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 7:21 am to tigerdup07
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Deep down inside
i feel like our program will be like v.t. winning season every year but never reach the pinnacle.
You based that on our performance of the last 7 years. LSU is one of only two schools to have two crystals. Did you forget that?
Posted on 1/9/10 at 7:21 am to Tiger in Gatorland
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We should strive for National Championships and be disappointed(not suicidal) when we do not get them.
I had this exact thought while watching the bowl games. I also think it's very similar to Charlie Mac's run here at LSU which lasted 17 years. Was that acceptable then? Were people frequently calling for Mac's head when he dropped 3 or 4 games?
First: It's not logical to expect NCs every year. Our goal should be SEC champions. There are so many variables that go into who those last two teams are. If we win the SEC, we will be in the conversation. Winning our conference is not disappointing no matter who wins the NC.
Second: Mac wasn't pulling down nearly $4 million. And this isn't 1979. 9-4, 8-5 and looking like crap is NOT acceptable.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 7:29 am to Lacour
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Second: Mac wasn't pulling down nearly $4 million. And this isn't 1979. 9-4, 8-5 and looking like crap is NOT acceptable.
I completely agree with you. I wonder, though, how much he was making as compared to his colleagues like Bear and others. That would be interesting.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 7:32 am to Tiger in Gatorland
with the 2009, 2010, and 2011 classes, talent won't be the reason LSU doesn't win a National Championship....
Will be the best 3 year scoop of talent in school history when it's all inked
Will be the best 3 year scoop of talent in school history when it's all inked
Posted on 1/9/10 at 7:39 am to Lacour
quote:Don't want you as coach you missed it all together.
First: It's not logical to expect NCs every year. Our goal should be SEC champions.
Whe Coach Paul Bryant was asked why he always won the SEC his answer was that He did not try to win the SEC he tried to win national championships, so when he fell short of his goal what is under the national championship.
You prepare to win it all but have realistic expectations about where your players are in their development.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 7:40 am to Tiger in Gatorland
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I also think it's very similar to Charlie Mac's run here at LSU which lasted 17 years.
as a fan then, it's difficult to agree with you. mac had some damn good teams and was on the cusp of n/c's more than once. bear bryant killed them. this ultimately cost cholly mac his job. it was time to move on and cholly mac agreed with that. he simply wouldn't recruit black athletes nor recruit very heavily at all. out of state schools began to cherry pick many of the best recruits and he did nothing to counter that. he stuck with all of his coaches, his recruiting tactics (or lack thereof) and basically all of his schemes. the option was king and we did not have the athletes or coaching expertise to do it successfully.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 7:40 am to Tiger in Gatorland
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I wonder, though, how much he was making as compared to his colleagues like Bear and others.
I doubt it was very much
Posted on 1/9/10 at 7:42 am to Lacour
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as a fan then, it's difficult to agree with you. mac had some damn good teams and was on the cusp of n/c's more than once. bear bryant killed them.
That sounds familiar.
Not that Les is on the cusp of anything but the Hot Seat. However, with Nick in Bama, there are going to be lots of coaches on the cusp only to be slapped away.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 7:44 am to Lacour
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Whe Coach Paul Bryant was asked why he always won the SEC his answer . . .
should have been "because I buy the best players."
Look, it is NOT LOGICAL to expect to win the NC every other year. That's Bama fans thinking. It's delusional and you are just setting yourself up for heartbreak. Win the SEC and see what happens.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 8:04 am to Lacour
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should have been "because I buy the best players."
Look, it is NOT LOGICAL to expect to win the NC every other year. That's Bama fans thinking. It's delusional and you are just setting yourself up for heartbreak. Win the SEC and see what happens.
Are you like this all the time? Where is your proof on Bear buying players?
LET ME GET THIS STRAIT YOU DON'T TRY TO WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS?You don't want an elite program?
If a coach would say that he would be fired on the spot.
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Look, it is NOT LOGICAL to expect to win the NC every other year.
What Patton did in the battle of the bulge wasn't logical either. Expect less of people and you will get less.
I can tell you never played the game but fancy yourself an expert.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 8:50 am to tigerdup07
The hard part is putting up with the LSU so-called fans who want to get rid of our Head Coach Les Miles.Sure, I wanted to strangle him after the mississippi loss.But, he is our coach and he aint't going anywhere.8 or 9 wins a years is not championship football, but it is much better than the 5 or 6 wins we struggled to, just a few years ago.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 9:07 am to AvoyellesTiger
The problem is that top recruits, especially in MS, TX, FL, want to play for a team that has a chance to play for the National Championship. We should always sign the best in state players. Therefore, once you have a string of 8 - 4 seasons, you lose the recruits that Les has been able to sign in the past. This will result in 7-5 and 6-6 seasons. (Maybe worse)
I'm not saying you have win a Championship, but you have to be in the conversation year after year.
I'm not saying you have win a Championship, but you have to be in the conversation year after year.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 9:11 am to JMM
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Therefore, once you have a string of 8 - 4 seasons, you lose the recruits that Les has been able to sign in the past.
How about this years recruits?!!!!
Posted on 1/9/10 at 9:59 am to Celtic Tiger
I know Woody Hayes' goal before the season was always to win the Big 10 and play in the Rose Bowl. If a NC was won, great, if it wasn't, so be it.
Times have changed, though.
Times have changed, though.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 12:02 pm to Celtic Tiger
Look people, I'm not saying you shouldn't try to win the NC. I'm saying you shouldn't EXPECT to win it every year. And yes I did play football for a pretty damn good coach and team. That has nothing to do with what is logical.
Read my post and understand before you fly off the handle. Striving for excellence and being delusional are two very different things.
Read my post and understand before you fly off the handle. Striving for excellence and being delusional are two very different things.
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