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re: Current list of LSU's early entrants to NFL Draft.... (UPDATED OP)
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:52 am to PurpleAndGold86
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:52 am to PurpleAndGold86
Without them the result would be a losing record
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:53 am to TigerStripes30
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ok AJ McCarren
Barret Jones stayed his Sr year as well
Reason i say AJ is because if anybody else's QB won 2 straight BCSNC games they gone
Did AJ improve his draft stock? What is the financial situation of the Bonner/McCarron family?
Barrett Jones stayed his Sr. year and still was barely a 4th round pick. He played in 3 games this year, starting none. Pretty sure he comes from an affluent family too.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:54 am to Tigers'Mojo
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Shaq didn't graduate while a student at LSU...he has a doctorate now. You think they can't take online classes to finish their degree? Get a clue man.
This presumes that all that leave early will make an NFL roster. I have no problem with OBJ and Landry going, but I just hope for kids on the bubble (e.g., Hilliard) that they are getting good advice.
Signed,
Jevon Snead
quote:
They choose to come back...there is a 1 in 120 shot of earning a national title.
That's like saying that if they choose to leave, there is a 224 of 1690 chance of making an NFL team. It's really more of a 1 in 20 shot.....
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:56 am to ironsides
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I just hope for kids on the bubble (e.g., Hilliard) that they are getting good advice.
pretend I'm Hilliard
tell me why I should go back for maybe 5 carries a game, instead of focusing on trying to make a roster and earn a paycheck next year?
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:57 am to JBeam
I'd take Kyle Williams , Tyson Jackson and Glenn Dorsey ,,,all of which stayed their Sr year over brokers, Logan, ego and freak any day of the week.
Not to me to mention the first three I mentioned ALL dominated in college.
Explain that one.
Not to me to mention the first three I mentioned ALL dominated in college.
Explain that one.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:57 am to Salmon
quote:how do you know they would or wouldn't be better?
How do you know the results wouldn't be worse with a bunch of undraftable seniors playing for LSU?
On the whole, 4th and 5th year seniors who are stronger and more experienced are going to perform better than RS-sophomores.
Tennessee had one of the recruiting Dream Teams in the 1994 signing class. It wasn't until 1997 and 1998 (SEC title, nat'l title) that they saw the fruits of that.
If those guys, including Peyton Manning, had left after 1996, how well do you think Tennessee would have done in 1997 and 1998? (even assuming Tennessee got another all-world recruiting class in 1997 and 1998 due to "all those guys leaving and me getting playing t1m3!!! woohoo!")
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:58 am to clamdip
Could you answer my question regarding the statment you made:
Which one did it not make sense for and why?
quote:
It made sense last year for several guys from a $$$ standpoint, but it also didn't for several guys.
Which one did it not make sense for and why?
Posted on 1/6/14 at 10:00 am to BT
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I'd take Kyle Williams , Tyson Jackson and Glenn Dorsey ,,,all of which stayed their Sr year over brokers, Logan, ego and freak any day of the week.
good for you
quote:
Explain that one.
every players situation is different, mindset is different, goals are different
Posted on 1/6/14 at 10:00 am to deSandman
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Only 19 BCS schools had a player declare and then not get drafted in the top 100 picks last season. Only 6 schools lost more than 1 player who wasn't a top 100 pick. LSU lost 5. It's not happening everywhere.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 10:03 am to BT
I wouldn't say Tyson dominated in CFB. That's a completely different story.
You named three guys that played in a different CFB era imo. Back then, players like M.Clarett were laughed at for leaving high level programs early. Its completely different now.
You named three guys that played in a different CFB era imo. Back then, players like M.Clarett were laughed at for leaving high level programs early. Its completely different now.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 10:05 am to deSandman
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Mett was LSU's only senior player this year who had a prayer of making First Team All-SEC (but didn't),
This has absolutely nothing to do with what we are discussing. First Team SEC does not equal draft potential, so I couldn't care less about who you think is going to make first team all SEC next season.
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CB -- E.J. Gaines, Missouri, 5-11, 195, Sr.
Gaines is ranked as the 11th corner in THIS draft. The 11th. Projects somewhere in the third round.
quote:Again, a third round projection. 9th best OLB in this draft.
E -- Dee Ford, Auburn, 6-2, 240, Sr.
quote:Another 3-4 round projection.
S -- Kenny Ladler, Vanderbilt, 6-1, 205, Sr
Your list is stupid. You basically took all the players that are seniors that made first team all SEC.
And notice how spread out those players are. It isn't like you name one team that had 5-6 guys come back.
Missouri had 3 according to your list.
LSU had Mett who is probably one of the top 5 QBs in this draft, Loston who is one of the top 3 safeties, and Copeland who is the 2nd ranked FB in 2014.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 10:05 am to BT
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I'd take Kyle Williams , Tyson Jackson and Glenn Dorsey ,,,all of which stayed their Sr year over brokers, Logan, ego and freak any day of the week.
Not to me to mention the first three I mentioned ALL dominated in college.
Explain that one.
First of all, the new CBA happened. I'd bet Kyle Williams would've thought about leaving. Jackson and Dorsey also were top 5 picks. Staying was worth the risk for the reward with the mega-contracts that top 5 picks were signing.
Under the new CBA, Brockers was going to make the average of the top 15 so why stay. Is staying another year going to help Johnson and Ferguson to leap to the 1st round...doubtful.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 10:06 am to JBeam
He also forgot to mention those guys all stays for first round lottery cash that doesn't exist anymore.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 10:08 am to PropofoLSU
Those 5 guys that didn't go top 100 still got payed. 
Posted on 1/6/14 at 10:08 am to JBeam
Ah, another Les Miles lovers unite thread. You guys are worse than the liberals who eat up Obama's drivel. If Les Miles says guys leaving early is the norm, you guys lap it up. Statistics be damned.
LSU is well on its way to lead the nation for the second year in a row, and possibly by another absurdly large margin. All that NFL talent, and 3 losses to show for it.
LSU is well on its way to lead the nation for the second year in a row, and possibly by another absurdly large margin. All that NFL talent, and 3 losses to show for it.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 10:10 am to Choupique19
Since when is Choupique a les miles basher.....you lead a march for miles didn't you?
This post was edited on 1/6/14 at 10:11 am
Posted on 1/6/14 at 10:11 am to clamdip
Cute gif but what does this prove?
Which one of LSU's players didn't make NFL $$$ last year? I give you Sam Montgomery who was dismissed for "violating team rules".
Again who should've stayed and why?
quote:
Only 19 BCS schools had a player declare and then not get drafted in the top 100 picks last season. Only 6 schools lost more than 1 player who wasn't a top 100 pick. LSU lost 5. It's not happening everywhere.
Which one of LSU's players didn't make NFL $$$ last year? I give you Sam Montgomery who was dismissed for "violating team rules".
Again who should've stayed and why?
Posted on 1/6/14 at 10:11 am to Choupique19
Again, you have a two year sample. Give it sometime before making knee jerk statements.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 10:11 am to Salmon
You and JBeam are now arguing now for sake of arguing.
(TJackson didn't dominate LOL)
Fact is LSU losing players early like this at the rate we have past 2 years sucks and is a problem.
(TJackson didn't dominate LOL)
Fact is LSU losing players early like this at the rate we have past 2 years sucks and is a problem.
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