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re: Criticism Not Allowed on the Rant
Posted on 12/15/08 at 2:45 pm to rbdallas
Posted on 12/15/08 at 2:45 pm to rbdallas
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I think JL will grow into being a fine QB...to the dismay and disappointment of many.
Nobody would be disappointed. Surprised, maybe, but not disappointed. I feel bad for JLee too, and he should probably transfer, b/c it just isnt going to happen for him at LSU.
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Posted on 12/15/08 at 2:50 pm to biglego
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b/c it just isnt going to happen for him at LSU.
send me the upcoming lotto numbers -lol
I just can not see the future,
you seem to be able to.
I have seen too many "NEVERS" go by the wayside.
Posted on 12/15/08 at 2:54 pm to rbdallas
quote:O-line played well all season. Sure there were some letdowns, but that is expected of any unit.
How would you perform at 19 yrs old if your
O and D line did not do their job.
quote:He had more time than JJ, yet JJ hasn't thrown a pick-6.
if you had not had time to train properly and had been thrown into the position.
quote:This was a problem late, I think, because the team gave up on JL. . .for good reason. When you bust your arse, only to have the QB give points to the opposition. . .well it takes alot out of you.
if receivers dropped passes and/or did not run their routes well.
quote:Then he should never play football at a major University. And ESPECIALLY not quarterback at a major University.
if you had to listen to thousand of negative people who really do not know any better bitch weekly and yet you had to come back and do it again next week.
He's had an easier go of it than did Howard. Howard fielded death threats. Lee just has people bitching about him on the internet.
This post was edited on 12/15/08 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 12/15/08 at 2:57 pm to rbdallas
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I just can not see the future,
you seem to be able to.
You shouldnt need to be able to predict the future to see that
1) JLee did not improve all year
2) Threw way too many INTs
3) JJ looked promising against Arky and did not throw a single INT
4) 2 great QB recruits coming in
5) Jlee does not fit Crowton's offensive style b/c he is cant move.
Posted on 12/15/08 at 2:58 pm to Roaad
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if receivers dropped passes and/or did not run their routes well.
Dropped passes have plagues LSU for years. No QB was more victimized by dropped passes than JRussel. But this is nothing new.
Posted on 12/15/08 at 2:59 pm to biglego
quote:Basically.
You shouldnt need to be able to predict the future to see that
1) JLee did not improve all year
2) Threw way too many INTs
3) JJ looked promising against Arky and did not throw a single INT
4) 2 great QB recruits coming in
5) Jlee does not fit Crowton's offensive style b/c he is cant move.
Posted on 12/15/08 at 3:12 pm to Roaad
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1) JLee did not improve all year
None of our QBs improved this year, but JLee got a lot of valuable experience.
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2) Threw way too many INTs
That is what inexperienced QBs do.
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3) JJ looked promising against Arky and did not throw a single INT
Good for JJ!
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4) 2 great QB recruits coming in
2 great inexperienced QB recruits coming in.
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5) Jlee does not fit Crowton's offensive style b/c he is cant move.
Which of the Chicago Bear's QBs fit Crowton's offensive style?
According to my crystal ball, J.Lee will be our starter coming out of summer practice with Shepard coming in as a change of pace.
Posted on 12/15/08 at 3:17 pm to Bad Cat
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None of our QBs improved this year, but JLee got a lot of valuable experience.
And still did not improve, even with all that experience.
quote:
That is what inexperienced QBs do.
But he did not improve.
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Good for JJ!
Good for LSU too, dont you think??
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2 great inexperienced QB recruits coming in.
True. That's why they'll have to get playing time.
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Which of the Chicago Bear's QBs fit Crowton's offensive style?
If JLee ends up making an NFL roster, then you will have a point.
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According to my crystal ball, J.Lee will be our starter coming out of summer practice with Shepard coming in as a change of pace.
Your crystal ball, for some reason, disregards the performance of JLee this entire season and the performance of JJ against Arky. You should not trust that ball.
Posted on 12/15/08 at 3:28 pm to biglego
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You shouldnt need to be able to predict the future to see that 1) JLee did not improve all year 2) Threw way too many INTs 3) JJ looked promising against Arky and did not throw a single INT 4) 2 great QB recruits coming in 5) Jlee does not fit Crowton's offensive style b/c he is cant move.
All of this predicts the past, nit the future.
That may not suit some of you, but only time will tell.
As the old saying goes,
when you are up to your arse in alligators,
it is hard to remember that the purpose of the exercise was to drain the swamp"
All JL could do is try to run like hell or get rid of the ball...
hard to pass well when your are running for your life.
no one can say he got any help from the areas that should have helped....
so, Time Will Tell.
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Your crystal ball, for some reason, disregards the performance of JLee this entire season and the performance of JJ against Arky. You should not trust that ball.
the above will have NOTHING to do with it.
Spring practice +, will determine who starts....
AFTER the games begin, performance will determine who continues as QB.
This post was edited on 12/15/08 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 12/15/08 at 3:35 pm to GeauxChrisSports
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"the players are nothing but a bunch of thugs and they are not worth a shite and Miles is the biggest douche bag ever and he needs to be fired and Jarrett Lee is a fig and no one on this team has self control and they just need to all go" then you deserve to get banned.
+100000
SORRY COULDN'T RESIST
Posted on 12/15/08 at 3:37 pm to rbdallas
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All JL could do is try to run like hell or get rid of the ball...
hard to pass well when your are running for your life.
no one can say he got any help from the areas that should have helped....
so, Time Will Tell.
Time will tell, true. But you have to look to the past to see where you are going. Let's not pretend that LSU's OL played horribly all year. JLee had a solid running game to work with. Scott was a beast until the last two games. Lee was not running for his life every snap.
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Spring practice +, will determine who starts....
AFTER the games begin, performance will determine who continues as QB.
I highly doubt any coach would pretend that an entire season did not happen. Game experience counts for more than spring practice.
Posted on 12/15/08 at 3:44 pm to biglego
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1) JLee did not improve all year
so are you saying there's no way that a RS Freshman can't improve from year 2 to year 3 into his Soph year after lots of playing time and experience?
Well, sure. That makes absolute sense.
Posted on 12/15/08 at 3:50 pm to biglego
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I highly doubt any coach would pretend that an entire season did not happen. Game experience counts for more than spring practice.
you keep looking at the past to satisfy your desires.....
the past will not be used for the future...
according to your way of thinking, we would all be judged by our first and likely worst performance ever....
Spring practice and the like will be used to determine who starts, then as I said, performance will be used to see who continues.
This post was edited on 12/15/08 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 12/15/08 at 3:53 pm to rbdallas
quote:what does that even mean?
All of this predicts the past, nit the future.
Posted on 12/15/08 at 3:54 pm to Prominentwon
quote:No. He's saying there is no precedent to show this occuring when his body of work is taken into account.
so are you saying there's no way that a RS Freshman can't improve from year 2 to year 3 into his Soph year after lots of playing time and experience?
Lee got worse as the season progressed. He actua;;y got worse with more playing time.
Posted on 12/15/08 at 4:02 pm to Roaad
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He actualy got worse with more playing time.
so did everyone around him, including coaches.
His performance last year will not influence his performance next year....
"his body of work" is BS..that applies to a resume when you are trying to get a cumulative result, not to an athlete, where you look at WHERE HE IS at the time to perform.
"IS HE READY TO PERFORM" and that will be rated at the point in time when the decision needs to be made...nothing to do with the past.
..or else we would never allow anyone to improve, since they would all be carrying dead weight with them.
Posted on 12/15/08 at 4:16 pm to rbdallas
quote:What are the lotto numbers going to be, then?
His performance last year will not influence his performance next year....
What did he do this year that makes people think he will get better next year? He led comebacks versus the Barn and Troy? The barn was awful, and Troy was, well Troy. His play was what put both teams ahead to begin with.
Neither of those games would have been close with a mediocre QB at the helm, rather than an awful one.
Posted on 12/15/08 at 4:17 pm to Prominentwon
Scoring offense
FSU #27
LSU #34
Hey Promintown where is all that top flight talent I have been hearing about at LSU the last two years?
You have an average massey composite rating of number 42 in the nation.
LINK
You should have stuck with the bubble pass. Pretty soon Crowton will take off himself to somewhere he gets to call the plays.
FSU #27
LSU #34
Hey Promintown where is all that top flight talent I have been hearing about at LSU the last two years?
You have an average massey composite rating of number 42 in the nation.
LINK
You should have stuck with the bubble pass. Pretty soon Crowton will take off himself to somewhere he gets to call the plays.
Posted on 12/15/08 at 5:27 pm to rbdallas
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He actualy got worse with more playing time.
so did everyone around him, including coaches.
Not until after Bama did the team quit. You do know how JLee did in that game, right? Up til then, the players played hard and the running game was working. JLee just couldnt get it done.
Now, against Arky, JJ had no running game yet still managed to put up 30 points and no INTs.
Posted on 12/15/08 at 5:28 pm to rbdallas
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His performance last year will not influence his performance next year....
"his body of work" is BS..that applies to a resume when you are trying to get a cumulative result, not to an athlete, where you look at WHERE HE IS at the time to perform.
I cant believe you dont see the relevancy of looking at JLee's game results from an entire season of starts. Wow.
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