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Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:48 am to ell_13
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Can Reid not get a look there? Templet? You know, actual infielders.
I had a long answer typed out to this but my browser messed up.
But they're making him a back up infielder, per one of the beat writers on Twitter. But I agree. Shift Smith to short and put Reid at 2nd with Woley at 3rd. Or Slaughter at 2nd and Templet at first. Get the guys reps that would actually be permanent replacements if someone went down.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:53 am to ProjectP2294
2 things make it odd.
1) We have other actual infielders
2) He's a senior. It's not like he's a real option at any critical point this year. But we have Freshmen and Sophs who could actually use experience, even if that's not their spot in the future.
1) We have other actual infielders
2) He's a senior. It's not like he's a real option at any critical point this year. But we have Freshmen and Sophs who could actually use experience, even if that's not their spot in the future.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:03 am to GeismarGeauxer
All of you pitching experts need to get over to Florida for spring training. MLB requires their coaches to be there. Oh yeah none of you are coaches and none of you really know what you are talking about.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:07 am to ell_13
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Can Reid not get a look there? Templet? You know, actual infielders.
I think you and I are on the same page.
No reason for Strall to be on the field let alone taking reps from others in mop up duty at 2B.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:07 am to TGFN57
quote:Do you have anything of substance to say in defense of the coach(es) or are you one of those who defend the coaches no matter what simply because they're a coach?
Oh yeah none of you are coaches and none of you really know what you are talking about.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:07 am to TGFN57
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All of you pitching experts need to get over to Florida for spring training. MLB requires their coaches to be there. Oh yeah none of you are coaches and none of you really know what you are talking about.
Are we lauding expertise after the "experts" gave up 10 runs in two innings yesterday? Seems like an odd time to jump on this particular expertise train.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:09 am to therick711
I actually recommend anyone to go to Florida or Arizona for spring training. Great weather this time of year and lots of fun going to these games plus plenty to do in those areas.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:10 am to GeismarGeauxer
He's got to see if his guys can work through adversity, but 4 doubles and a triple in one inning is tough to swallow. I can't ever remember LSU being skull drug so bad in one inning before.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:15 am to GRIZZ
Just off the top of my head, in '97 Alabama beat us pretty damn bad. We had multiple innings like that. 
Didn't Johnny T get to pitch in that game?
Didn't Johnny T get to pitch in that game?
This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 10:17 am
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:27 am to GeismarGeauxer
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CPM's Achilles' heel - leaving pitchers in too long
Maybe in general, but last night we lost because he pulled a pitcher too quickly. If his #1 goal was to win last night's game he would've left Gilbert in for another couple of innings. Instead he pulled him to give other guys a chance, which makes sense in the long run but cost us last night's game.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:30 am to Cold Cous Cous
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last night we lost because he pulled a pitcher too quickly. If his #1 goal was to win last night's game he would've left Gilbert in for another couple of innings
That's what I said on page 2 of this thread. Got 4 downvotes. Tiger fans have to MELT about something.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:33 am to Cold Cous Cous
quote:He pulled Gilbert because it was always the plan to have him throw just 4 innings. After that, Kiel threw a wrench in his "plans" and he had to start making decisions. I have no problem with when he pulled Gilbert or Kiel. Putting in Strall in that situation where he was supposed to stop a rally already in full swing without having someone else ready to go if he didn't have it is the problem. Again, that's not something that hurts us in the long run because this games means zero other than experience. But it can't continue to happen once we play SEC teams. I'll save my melt for then if it happens.
last night we lost because he pulled a pitcher too quickly. If his #1 goal was to win last night's game he would've left Gilbert in for another couple of innings. Instead he pulled him to give other guys a chance, which makes sense in the long run but cost us last night's game.
This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 10:34 am
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:34 am to GeismarGeauxer
best thing for a fresh pitcher is to get him on and off the mound as quickly as possible and give them a sort of rythm
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:38 am to ell_13
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Putting in Strall in that situation where he was supposed to stop a rally already in full swing without having someone else ready to go if he didn't have it is the problem. Again, that's not something that hurts us in the long run because this games means zero other than experience. But it can't continue to happen once we play SEC teams.
Bingo
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:39 am to GeismarGeauxer
Mainieri always lets his Pitchers Drown.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 11:26 am to GeismarGeauxer
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No reason to lose games for not having someone warming at the first sign of trouble
although i agree, its just a mid week game and its early, (trying to get some guys some game reps) This goes on with many skippers these days, they want to see if they can fight through it.. and I get that, you want to see that in your pitcher but you have to put the team first.. i cant count the number of times ive seen games lost for leaving a guy in too long or not getting someone hot and the first sign of trouble. like i said its the beginning of the year and hes learning the guys.. but no way that should happen during conference play.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:06 pm to ell_13
Let's look at a pure roster numbers as a determination of the pitching rotation. Since this is a unique week with 5 games, you have to spread out our roster of 17 pitchers over those 5 games.
Early spring games mean there are going to be at least 6 pitchers slated for the weekend. Let's say we want to use the closer at least once, that would be seven. That leaves 10 pitchers for the two midweek games.
If you consider that the starter is only staying in 4 innings, you have 8 of your more problematic pitchers to relieve. Now that we have used 5 of those 8, it was a sure thing that either UNO or Hofstra was going to see Strall.
Early spring games mean there are going to be at least 6 pitchers slated for the weekend. Let's say we want to use the closer at least once, that would be seven. That leaves 10 pitchers for the two midweek games.
If you consider that the starter is only staying in 4 innings, you have 8 of your more problematic pitchers to relieve. Now that we have used 5 of those 8, it was a sure thing that either UNO or Hofstra was going to see Strall.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:11 pm to PDT1960
Not sure who has a problem with bringing in strall. Obviously, lots of guys will get work early. And your "pure numbers" post doesn't address reality in that multiple pitchers pitch in multiple games.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:17 pm to GeismarGeauxer
you leave a pitcher in the game when the situation is tough (men on base, etc) BECAUSE PITCHERS HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO PITCH OUT OF THOSE SITUATIONS. there are other reasons but at this time of the year in a meaningless game that's the only truth that matters. it is not good policy to treat a meaningless game like a fricking post season contest. in ALL LIKELYHOOD, you think the pitcher was left in too long because it didn't work out. if he would have pitched out of the jam, PM would have been applauded for it. this team isn't being coached to win every game nor should it be. it should be prepared for the end game and we are most definitely going to need our pitchers to pitch well under pressure.
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