re: Could Blue and Hill each rush for over 1,000 yards this season?

If they do, we didn't change the gameplan enough

If the offense is able to run 15 more plays a game in Cam's uptempo system who knows. Could be a lot more throws to the RB's that won't count.

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And he is too slow and too soft. Doesn't break off the 50 yard runs like Hill and Blue can, gets caught in the open field from behind anytime there is green pastures in front of him and shys away from contact even though he is our biggest RB.

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Kid averages 5.5 YPC for his career. Longest run was 71 yds, and has a couple more of around 40-50 yds.

Not to mention, he showed up to Spring ball in great shape and played well all spring.

I can agree with you that he may be the odd man out, but no doubt he is talented. He will be the short yardage back this year.

His career long runs were against North Texas and Idaho on plays where you could of driven a truck through the hole. Not like there is SEC type speed taking the field for those defenses either. Other than those 2 runs which were 60 and 71 yards respectively, his longest was 25 IIRC. Hasn't had a couple of 40-50 yard carries.


He had 82 carries total last year. 37 of those carries came in the first 3 weeks against North Texas, Washington, and Idaho. And all 6 of his TDs last season came against those teams. He had 37 carries vs SEC opponents, and averaged 3.5ypc. Not good. Once Hill got going, Hilliard barely even sniffed the field. He was better as a freshman and I'm not sure how he disappointed or regressed last year. Could of gotten lazy. But, I just think its his running style and mentality. He needs to dish out the hits. But instead he avoids them and shys away from them.

And I know he worked hard and is in way better shape, which is good because he needed to be in better shape. But that's not what gets me with Hilliard. It's his mentality when he runs the ball. The talent is def there, but his football mindset is soft compared to his size and possible talent. If he would run as hard as Ware did he would he a heck of a player. But instead he runs like Ford and shys away from contact.

If he's going to be our short yardage guy, he better start running mean and dishing out the contact instead of avoiding it and taking it.

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Hopefully not. Hopefully we pass for enough yards so that isn't feasible.

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Yeldon and Lacy both went over 1000 with almost 30 TDs and Mccarron threw for 2900 and 30 TDs

Gurley went over 1000 and Marshall almost did and they had close to 25 TDs while Murray had over 3000 passing.

All it means is that you have an explosive offense.

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so outside of his long runs, he had no long runs-got it. I really cant argue your opinion, but your use of stats here is incredibly flawed. You say he doesnt have what Blue and Hill have, because the only time Hilliard put up decent stats was in the first three games. Blue only played in those games.

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Ha what's flawed in my use of stats??? And it's not an opinion. Those are the stats. He had long runs against North Texas and Idaho. That's it. And those 2 teams have 0 SEC caliber players or speed on their defense. Other than that, when up against legit SEC defenses and speed he only had 2 carries over 20 yards in 2 seasons. So he had long runs against teams where everyone on the defense was slow and teams who our OL absolutely dominated, and when we played teams with SEC speed he didn't have long runs. In 2 years he's only had 4 runs of 20+ yards and only 2 of them came against SEC teams which went for 21 and 25. And on both of those he had open field in front of him and got caught because he is slow compared to the speed in the SEC.

And I completely agree about the Blue thing. Most of his work is against sub par non conference teams. Hasn't shown anything against SEC opponents. He's unproven vs SEC teams, But it's obvious that Blue was our #1 RB going into the season last year and is on a diff level than Hilliard. And I think Hill is on a different level than Blue. He's our best RB and IMO, its by a decent margin. Just like Blue is better than Hilliard by a decent margin.

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Who did?

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Not sure what you mean by that. When Hill got going, Hilliard barely even sniffed the field and that was when Blue was out.

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Could horses fly ?

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It's pigs you idiot

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And it's not an opinion. Those are the stats.

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Was referring to you stating that you think he is the odd man out because you think he may be lazy or lacks drive. That is an opinion.

I dont understand how you are so hung up on long runs either bro. Like I said, career average of 5.5 yds is not too shabby. In fact, it is better than Jeremy Hill, with nearly the same amount of career carries (granted, it is better by a tenth of a yard, but we dont laugh at stats).

So you want to bring conference play into it? Then maybe we should adjust the basis of comparison; let's do Freshmen years. Hilliard averaged 6.1 YPC in SEC play, while Hill averaged 4.8. This is a time period which both players benefited from a small workload from the beginning of the season, not to mention Hill having the entire year off from football the previous year.

I'm not trying to argue that Kenny is better than Hill, at all. I'm am trying to demonstrate that it is fairly easy to make stats work for your argument.

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Not sure what you mean by that. When Hill got going, Hilliard barely even sniffed the field and that was when Blue was out.

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That is what I mean. Whenn Hill got going, he was featured moreso than any other LSU RB in recent memory, outside of maybe Ridley. My point is that it might be more of a function of how impressive and effective Hill was rather than how ineffective any of the others were.

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Could Blue and Hill each rush for over 1,000 yards this season?

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Yes, and Mett will throw for 4000.

Cam Cameron is the OC equivalent of Nick Saban.