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re: Corbello, Lockwood, Bourg transferring from LSU softball...

Posted on 6/23/16 at 9:04 pm to
Posted by 18handicap
Member since Jul 2014
6483 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 9:04 pm to
Well I'm not going to let him spread lies about me like that...

What am I supposed to do? Sit here and let him make false accusations?
This post was edited on 6/23/16 at 9:06 pm
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 6/23/16 at 9:32 pm to
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I would love cliff notes on this shite


Here goes...

1) Off the top,if you are choosing sides here, 18handicap is a good guy, educote is a certified a-hole. Choose wisely.

2) educote has made a habit of coming on this site and absolutely trashing Beth Torina and her coaching ability. This would be the same Beth Torina who has led LSU to consecutive 3rd place national finishes. Here is some of his handy work A post that summarizes some of the things he said

3) educote criticizes certain players to a point where it becomes personal and hateful. It is one thing to criticize constructively...he goes way over the line. The one main player he had a disdain for was Emily Griggs, and her dad, who has a strong personality, has taken offense to some of his comments during the season.

4) educote was in OKC and spent a lot of time talking shite about the LSU team that he was supposedly there rooting for.

5) Apparently, educote was seen around the team bus after they were eliminated spewing venom. I wasn't there so I don't know....but that is what 18handicap claims to have seen.

6) educote spends a lot of time claiming that there is dissension on the team, bad apples on the team, and other speculative crap that he should basically keep to himself.

Basically, if you take all of the knowledgeable softball posters on this site who follow the team and put them in a room, educote would be on one side of the room alone while the others chatted intelligently about the program and the team.

Hope this helps.
Posted by Bhs83
Member since Mar 2016
548 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 9:54 pm to
Beth plays to the big picture, not necessarily each individual game. She knows benching players who are struggling could have a negative effect far beyond just that game...we have seen her leave Carly in too long before, but she was looking past the game they were losing and letting Carly know that Beth believed in her. It probably made a difference in future games. Yeah, i think Beth wants to win, but i think she knows there is a bigger picture before her.

A good coach knows she has to take care of her players' in a way that helps build their confidence.

If Quinn is in fact the emotional leader of the team, then I would be shocked if she didn't start, and I'd be shocked if Beth ever pulled her out of a game because of her play. Softball, and baseball, are a lot about confidence and i think Beth tends to look at the bigger picture, not just for the team, but for the individual player.

Posted by 18handicap
Member since Jul 2014
6483 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:08 pm to
Thanks for the good words... educote's accusations today should confirm what I "claim" to have witnessed after the loss to OU at the WCWS. I would rather keep what I saw off of the forums because I don't want to involve any player or parent in this mess. Educote pretty much said it and I can verify it but in the opposite, but again I would rather leave the player and family out of it.

One day I hate to say, but I'll be able to tell him, "I told you so," when he is put in his place.

Also remember that most of us are not calling him names, but he calls us names every chance he can get.
This post was edited on 6/23/16 at 10:12 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91079 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:14 pm to
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Well I'm not going to let him spread lies about me like that...



I don't blame you

quote:

What am I supposed to do? Sit here and let him make false accusations?


of course not. sounds like you have met face to face? yet he is still spreading lies?
Posted by 18handicap
Member since Jul 2014
6483 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:17 pm to
As you read, I had chances, but my LSU friends convinced me it was better not to confront him in OKC. If he is allowed to come to Tiger Park, or any LSU facility next season, which I doubt, and I run into him, I will discuss this.
This post was edited on 6/23/16 at 10:18 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:21 pm to
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As you read, I had chances, but my LSU friends convinced me it was better not to confront him in OKC. If he is allowed to come to Tiger Park, or any LSU facility next season, which I doubt, and I run into him, I will discuss this.




after reading the cliff notes above, good lord that guy sounds like a douchebag.
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
43295 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:23 pm to
I don't know what happened nor do i want to know it is none of my business but sounds like educote needs some help because he's gonna mouth off to the wrong person and get knocked out it's just a matter of time.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
37906 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:29 pm to
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after reading the cliff notes above, good lord that guy sounds like a douchebag.


Read his post history. It speaks for itself. He was insufferable during the middle of the season when the team was struggling a little. I linked this particular quote above, but it bears repeating because it puts his attitude in a nutshell..

quote:

The number one job of a coach is to be able to Motivate and bring their team out of a slump. She can't do it. She stands nicely on 3rd base with her hands in her pocket. And she recruits decently. ...


This post was made right before LSU went on an 11 game winning streak, made the championship game of the SEC tournament, won a regional, won a super-regional after being down one game, and won 2 games in OKC.
This post was edited on 6/23/16 at 10:31 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:31 pm to
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I don't know what happened nor do i want to know it is none of my business but sounds like educote needs some help because he's gonna mouth off to the wrong person and get knocked out it's just a matter of time.




yeah i mean this isn't les miles we are talking about or some thug criminal player. This clown runs down beth and emily griggs? WTF? college girls who bust their asses day in and day out? unreal. parents and other coaches at all levels won't put up with that shite i can tell you right know.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
37906 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:34 pm to
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This clown runs down beth and emily griggs?


I really am surprised Emily Griggs' dad hasn't cleaned his clock. He (Griggs) has a VERY strong personality, but with that he is also very intelligent and knows that confronting a jackass will do more harm than good in the long run, so that is why it hasn't happened, IMO.
This post was edited on 6/23/16 at 10:42 pm
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
43295 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:36 pm to
Pretty sad people can't come on here and just discuss softball without seeing this crap all the time. I understand constructive criticism on the players and coaches but he always goes over the line.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
37906 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:38 pm to
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parents and other coaches at all levels won't put up with that shite i can tell you right know.


Here is where it gets touchy. educote's sister was an All-American player at LSU when the program first started 20 years ago and is a great person. She also coaches softball at Parkview, where one of our star recruits for next year played...so he isn't just some random lunatic fan out of nowhere.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
37906 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:41 pm to
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Pretty sad people can't come on here and just discuss softball without seeing this crap all the time. I understand constructive criticism on the players and coaches but he always goes over the line.



THIS. At one point during the season I "requested admin" on him and he was silenced for a little while, like a week or two....but he eventually showed back up.
Posted by 18handicap
Member since Jul 2014
6483 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:44 pm to
He got on my bad side two years ago when he blamed pregnancy hormones as to why he was upset that Beth sent a couple of runners home that were thrown out at the plate. First, it wasn't announced that she was pregnant, second, as a girls softball coach for 25 years, that wasn't an appropriate thing to say. Third, he has a daughter so why would he say something about a woman like that.
Posted by 18handicap
Member since Jul 2014
6483 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:45 pm to
Several of us got in front of him to keep him from going after eric after his comments to Emily. Next time, I will get out of the way.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91079 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:46 pm to
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Here is where it gets touchy. educote's sister was an All-American player at LSU when the program first started 20 years ago and is a great person. She also coaches softball at Parkview, where one of our star recruits for next year played...so he isn't just some random lunatic fan out of nowhere.






so he of all people should know how to behave better. That's sad to hear. As we all know here softball is a niche sport and the followers are hardcore because of family playing and /or people here coaching as i'm sure many of you do just like myself. You just don't run down players and coaches like that in softball. The softball world is a small world and lots of people know each other. I'm still in shock we have a so called supporter who is acting like this TOWARDS SOFTBALL. good grief.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91079 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:48 pm to
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as a girls softball coach for 25 years,


and this proves my points i just made. small world niche sport which we love and most die hard softballers like us have family playing or we coach.

wassup coach?
Posted by 18handicap
Member since Jul 2014
6483 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 11:37 pm to
Thanks! I may be retired but I'm always "coach."
Posted by ECTiger
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 6/23/16 at 11:54 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/24/16 at 12:58 pm
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