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re: Copy of Motion for Dismissal of Charges

Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283280 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:56 pm to
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Be assured that CLM knows the facts. After discussing with the players the night in question, he clearly gave the best reply to JJ in "defend yourself to the fullest".

tards will post the BRPD is at fault which is laughable and sophmorish.



I really want to know where this information is coming from. I hear this conatantly but I don't see any solid evidence that BRPD is at fault, or that Miles isn't acting on the evidence he has presently.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

These people are simply gearing up to throw a conniption fit if/whenever he does take the field...under any circumstances.


true. He could run on the field with 2 minutes left during a blowout and i guarantee there will be some idiots that boo.
Posted by acgeaux129
We are BR
Member since Sep 2007
15011 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:00 pm to
Absolutely irrelevant.

I disagreed with him starting, but I held no ill will towards the kid before the incident. However, I know that he is guilty of a piece of shite move and shouldn't be on the team anymore. I have said this on here before, but I have a mutual/friend acquaintance with Lowery who was with him that night.

BRPD may suck, but it's not because they have screwed over some poor victim. It's because they couldn't gather any concrete evidence to move forward with the charges.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:01 pm to
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A motion for dismissal of charges? Must be innocent.




Yeah, he says his client is innocent.

So he must be right?
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

However, I know that he is guilty of a piece of shite move and shouldn't be on the team anymore. I have said this on here before, but I have a mutual/friend acquaintance with Lowery who was with him that night.


i have a mutual friend/acquaintance with JJ that was with him that night that says JJ did nothing
Posted by lsugang
BATON ROUGE
Member since Feb 2010
1388 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:02 pm to
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BRPD may suck, but it's not because they have screwed over some poor victim. It's because they couldn't gather any concrete evidence to move forward with the charges.


They moved forward. They arrested him!
Posted by acgeaux129
We are BR
Member since Sep 2007
15011 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:03 pm to
ok
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:03 pm to
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However, I know that he is guilty of a piece of shite move and shouldn't be on the team anymore. I have said this on here before, but I have a mutual/friend acquaintance with Lowery who was with him that night.


We're ALL ears...

Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
84958 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:03 pm to
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Say you're accused of something and given a leave of absence from your job...later the charges are dropped or you're found innocent of any wrong doing...would you expect to be allowed back to work? Would you be pissed if your boss said "You know what? I know it was never proven that you did anything wrong but we're going to go ahead and fire you anyway."


You're another one who doesn't seem to understand how "at-will" employment works.

I've known people who were arrested, and not given a "leave-of absence", but out-and-out FIRED. Just for being arrested. The reason being that an arrest looks bad for an employee, and the employer doesn't want that to reflect poorly on THEM.

If the employer fills the arrested employee's job, and the charges against the employee are dropped, that's not the employer's problem. They have to protect their best interests and can hire/fire for any reason they see fit. Life ain't fair.

You seem to be promoting the idea that playing football is JJ's RIGHT. THAT is bullshite. Playing football for LSU is a PRIVILEGE which, like any other can be revoked for any reason.

I've given you my opinion on what should happen, which I actually think is pretty fair. Right now, I'm more concerned w/ what's fair to 83 or so other players who are trying to win a NC THIS year.

If you don't like my opinion, that's your problem. Personally, I'll back whatever decision Coach Miles chooses to make. He's more informed on all of this than any of us are, anyway.
This post was edited on 9/17/11 at 1:04 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283280 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

I disagreed with him starting, but I held no ill will towards the kid before the incident. However, I know that he is guilty of a piece of shite move and shouldn't be on the team anymore. I have said this on here before, but I have a mutual/friend acquaintance with Lowery who was with him that night.

BRPD may suck, but it's not because they have screwed over some poor victim. It's because they couldn't gather any concrete evidence to move forward with the charges.


You haven't waivered from that stance, will give you that.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:04 pm to
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I could agree with Les giving him the option of taking a redshirt and coming back next year with a fair opportunity to win his starting job back in the spring.

But 4 weeks into this season...that ship has sailed. I just have the feeling that mere reinstatement to the team isn't going to be enough for JJ. He'll want his starting position handed back to him. And it could well cause dissension on the team when that doesn't happen, which isn't fair to the other kids.


Totally agree.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

Be assured that CLM knows the facts. After discussing with the players the night in question, he clearly gave the best reply to JJ in "defend yourself to the fullest".

tards will post the BRPD is at fault which is laughable and sophmorish.

While we all wish the best for the JJ's, they put themselves where they are and they are SOLELY responsible. NO ONE ELSE is to blame for their predicament. These guys are told 1,000 times not to put themselves in a bad position - that they should consider themselves targets.

The minute that Unglesby was hired, you could write the timeline on his "playbook". Don't be surprised to see a filing in the future for "lost opportunity".


+1
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

Yeah, he says his client is innocent.

So he must be right?


I ask again, what would an innocent person do and say? Would they not also claim their innocence, or do only guilty people claim they are innocent?
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
13778 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:05 pm to
Someone owes JJ a BIG ($$) apology.
Posted by acgeaux129
We are BR
Member since Sep 2007
15011 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:05 pm to
Why are you being intentionally obtuse? I told you that's irrelevant. I'm talking about people's reactions on here.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283280 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

If you don't like my opinion, that's your problem. Personally, I'll back whatever decision Coach Miles chooses to make. He's more informed on all of this than any of us are, anyway.


This is my opnion. Whatever Miles decides to do will be based on the information he has at hand and not following internet message board rumor. I would prefer JJ back sooner than later unless other evidence comes public, but Miles knows what happened or most likely happened.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
20622 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:07 pm to
I thought 7b was disproved with multiple accounts of this not happening?

7e So now no LSU players were involved?

11c and 11e Did they proof read this.

Wow, this sounds great. All LSU players are 100% innocent! The only thing that happened was JJ pulled non-involved LSU players away from the fight.
Posted by acgeaux129
We are BR
Member since Sep 2007
15011 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

This is my opnion. Whatever Miles decides to do will be based on the information he has at hand and not following internet message board rumor. I would prefer JJ back sooner than later unless other evidence comes public, but Miles knows what happened or most likely happened.



I severely disagree. He is going to be fed the most one-sided viewpoint imaginable.
Posted by LSUFAN2
Tennessee
Member since Jan 2011
2564 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:09 pm to
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7349 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 1:09 pm to
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Someone owes JJ a BIG ($$) apology.


The lawyer that told him he'd get off and be back on the team!
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