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Posted on 9/2/09 at 12:34 am to LSU Yellow Cab
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Debatable at this point since that was LSU weakest area last season
True, but did you see how lost they seemed in that system? I remember DB's looking at each other holding their hands up like they didn't know what was going on. It will be much improved IMHO, as well as the coaching. Theres no reason to think our D will stink it up nearly as much as last year. I like our talent and we're stacked up front. And don't forget 49 of our opponents points were directly from 7 INT's for TD's.We didn't get enough turnovers. I don't think thats the case this year either, all though i could be wrong.
This post was edited on 9/2/09 at 12:37 am
Posted on 9/2/09 at 12:34 am to TigerCLT
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The Tigers will improve this season, sure, but will they improve to the level of once again being one of the elite teams in the country and contending for a BCS bowl as their ranking would imply?
So there are 4 BCS bowls and a BCS national championship game. That would mean the top 10 teams will appear in BCS bowl games (2 of which will play in the NC), assuming the AP rankings are the BCS rankings.
With this in mind, how the hell does a #11 ranking "imply" that we are going to contend for a BCS bowl? Honestly, I think that a #11 finish this season is fairly reasonable if not easily attainable. I don't think we will play in a BCS bowl game, but I do think we will finish in the #11-15 range.
Posted on 9/2/09 at 12:39 am to GeauxLSUGeaux
I am excited to see what Cooper has done with the secondary. It may remind me of Zenon and Chevis early on. When they would make the spectacular play and a bonehead play in same series. Only thing was the spectacular play was all anyone could talk about after the game.
You won’t see the INTS for touchdown that is for sure. That is more a fluke stat to be honest, talk to anyone who really understands game of football and they will say it’s frustrating but it should not happen at rate it did last year.
Jefferson adds mobility to LSU QB position something they did not have last year.
My only concern is how accurate Jefferson will be once lights shine bright, and how many sacks will he take. History shows QB's that make plays with their feet usually take more sacks than strict drop back and throw QB's.
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And don't forget 49 of our opponents points were directly from 7 INT's for TD's. I don't think thats the case this year either, all though i could be wrong.
You won’t see the INTS for touchdown that is for sure. That is more a fluke stat to be honest, talk to anyone who really understands game of football and they will say it’s frustrating but it should not happen at rate it did last year.
Jefferson adds mobility to LSU QB position something they did not have last year.
My only concern is how accurate Jefferson will be once lights shine bright, and how many sacks will he take. History shows QB's that make plays with their feet usually take more sacks than strict drop back and throw QB's.
Posted on 9/2/09 at 12:43 am to GeauxLSUGeaux
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what is this colossal crap doing on an LSU website?
Let's say you are a writer. Let's say nothing about you or your work stands out or attracts readers. What is a sure-fire way to get people reading and talking about your article? You can fill in the blanks from here
Posted on 9/2/09 at 12:47 am to aibo synthetic
Why so when someone passes by him(Johanathan Brooks) they can say " Hey, you're the LSU newspaper beat-writer sh*tting all over your readers football team" ? You think people should believe what he says?
This post was edited on 9/2/09 at 12:50 am
Posted on 9/2/09 at 12:55 am to GeauxLSUGeaux
More people believe it than you would believe.
Most fans I know casual and hardcore expected a 15-25 Ranking with some thinking unranked. They believe LSU is a little high and I will admit where they are ranked even surprises me. I expected #16 honestly.
Most fans I know casual and hardcore expected a 15-25 Ranking with some thinking unranked. They believe LSU is a little high and I will admit where they are ranked even surprises me. I expected #16 honestly.
Posted on 9/2/09 at 12:58 am to LSU Yellow Cab
I sure as hell hope the author of that article never has offspring...
Posted on 9/2/09 at 12:58 am to TigerCLT
how much is it for one ticket for one game in Death valley?
Posted on 9/2/09 at 1:05 am to LSU Yellow Cab
The thing about this team many forget is that LSU's offense dominated several teams last year, only to hand them the game. Really, the only games LSU lost by not shooting themselves in the foot (which they basically still did) was the UF and OM game.
LSU lost to UGA by 14 based on 2 INTs for TD if I recall correctly. That erratic offense still put of 38 on UGA.
LSU lost to Alabama following 4 INTS (1 returned for a TD, the other to inside the 15 for a TD on the ensuing drive). That offense still put up 21 on Bamas vaunted defense.
Arky game was all but won until two things happened:
1) Coaches pulled in the reigns on the offense in the 2nd half with very bad/conservative playcalling, and
2) the defense gave up several stupid penalties that were the difference in the end.
LSU easily could've beat everyone on their schedule last season without those fluke plays, even UF.
LSU was only down 20-14 midway through the 3rd quarter before they just collapsed and made stupid mistake after stupid mistake.
This wasn't the case of a team being out-talented, but a case of bad scheming and lack of discipline and a natural leader at QB. If Jordan Jefferson brings anything to the table to improve this LSU team by leaps and bouds, it is his mobility and the threat of a running QB.
Furthermore, LSU lots only 1 WR from last season in Byrd who really underachieved. While Toliver only had 22 catches, once he got meaningful playing time, he showed his ability to dominate and with Lafell and Dickson back, our wideouts will be more than solid.
In the end, a few changes here and there and LSU could easily have been 11-1 last season going into the SEC championship. Almost all the breaks just went against LSU outside of the Auburn game.
LSU lost to UGA by 14 based on 2 INTs for TD if I recall correctly. That erratic offense still put of 38 on UGA.
LSU lost to Alabama following 4 INTS (1 returned for a TD, the other to inside the 15 for a TD on the ensuing drive). That offense still put up 21 on Bamas vaunted defense.
Arky game was all but won until two things happened:
1) Coaches pulled in the reigns on the offense in the 2nd half with very bad/conservative playcalling, and
2) the defense gave up several stupid penalties that were the difference in the end.
LSU easily could've beat everyone on their schedule last season without those fluke plays, even UF.
LSU was only down 20-14 midway through the 3rd quarter before they just collapsed and made stupid mistake after stupid mistake.
This wasn't the case of a team being out-talented, but a case of bad scheming and lack of discipline and a natural leader at QB. If Jordan Jefferson brings anything to the table to improve this LSU team by leaps and bouds, it is his mobility and the threat of a running QB.
Furthermore, LSU lots only 1 WR from last season in Byrd who really underachieved. While Toliver only had 22 catches, once he got meaningful playing time, he showed his ability to dominate and with Lafell and Dickson back, our wideouts will be more than solid.
In the end, a few changes here and there and LSU could easily have been 11-1 last season going into the SEC championship. Almost all the breaks just went against LSU outside of the Auburn game.
Posted on 9/2/09 at 1:16 am to GeauxBob
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That offense still put up 21 on Bamas vaunted defense
Bama committed 3 turn overs themselves it was just not LSU shooting itself in foot.
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Coaches pulled in the reigns on the offense in the 2nd half with very bad/conservative playcalling,
Jefferson also quit completing passes
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This wasn't the case of a team being out-talented, but a case of bad scheming and lack of discipline and a natural leader at QB
Florida scored only scored 7 points off an INT and that was not till 3rd quarter. QB was not an issue as much as defense was in that game.
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While Toliver only had 22 catches, once he got meaningful playing time, he showed his ability to dominate and with Lafell and Dickson back, our wideouts will be more than solid.
16 catches last 5 games of the season. Had 9 in final 3 games of the season.
Posted on 9/2/09 at 1:26 am to GeauxBob
I have to agree witht he writter that preseason rankings are retarded and not really based on anything other than speculation. While LSU might be a little over rated how is no one talking about the fact that ND is even ranked...GA Tech is ranked that high after only a chick fil a bowl where they took a massive beating...miami who has yet only proved this is not 10 years ago. How is LSU the only team getting any press on being overrated? Granted this guy is a tool writting in a local school paper...but een national media aren't talking about other teams over hyped standings.
Posted on 9/2/09 at 1:34 am to Navtiger1
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Navtiger1
From my understand and this is just my opinion a lot of preseason ranking is based on how a team finished previous season and how their schedule sets up for them. ND being ranked that high can be based purely on fact their schedule is set up nicely for 10+ wins.
Thats one of reason I wil ranking were not released till later in season. It sets up some teams perfectly and others that could be better have to fight and claw because of where they were ranked in a preseason poll.
Posted on 9/2/09 at 1:34 am to Navtiger1
Proofreading and spell check is your friend! 
Posted on 9/2/09 at 1:38 am to Navtiger1
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While LSU might be a little over rated how is no one talking about the fact that ND is even ranked...GA Tech is ranked that high after only a chick fil a bowl where they took a massive beating...miami who has yet only proved this is not 10 years ago. How is LSU the only team getting any press on being overrated? Granted this guy is a tool writting in a local school paper...but een national media aren't talking about other teams over hyped standings.
Yea, i mean we had our problems last year, but i just don't see how Oregon, who lost their whole offensive line from last year, could be ranked ahead of us. I agree we are about where we should be right now at 11. I don't see how some of you don't think we are the only ones with question marks. Sure, Bama's D will be great, but they only return 2 OLineman and have lost their starting QB and RB. Julio Jones sure, but not much else after that at WR. USC has a new QB so we'll see if he can lose a couple of games for USC. I think they shouldn't rank teams until a few weeks into the season anyway, but they are entitled to their opinion.
Posted on 9/2/09 at 1:40 am to GeauxLSUGeaux
Schedule
Schedule
Schedule
BTW: I think if LSU were to suit up right this minute and play USC or Bama they would lose. I believe both of those teams at this moment in time are better than LSU.
Schedule
Schedule
BTW: I think if LSU were to suit up right this minute and play USC or Bama they would lose. I believe both of those teams at this moment in time are better than LSU.
This post was edited on 9/2/09 at 1:41 am
Posted on 9/2/09 at 1:43 am to GeauxBob
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This wasn't the case of a team being out-talented, but a case of bad scheming and lack of discipline and a natural leader at QB. If Jordan Jefferson brings anything to the table to improve this LSU team by leaps and bouds, it is his mobility and the threat of a running QB.
GeauxBob I completely agree. I hate to criticize Peveto and Mallery too much.
Peveto coached the LBs and Mallory coached the DBs on our 2007 defense that won the NC.
Mallery's coaching of the DBs was excellent, comparatively as good as that of Ron Cooper's South Carolina secondary. From 2005-2007, LSU's pass defense with Mallory as the secondaries coach ranked No. 11, No. 3, and No. 9 nationally. From 2006-2008, South Carolina's pass defense with Cooper as the secondaries coach ranked No. 43 (growing pains?), No. 4, and No. 2 nationally.
The problem with them as DCs was that they weren't using their system. They tried to continue Pellini's defensive schemes, schemes that they obviously didn't have a feel for. To do it right, I believe it has to be your baby, not someone else's. Without that feel, it's too hard to make adjustments.
The bottom line is that, despite being good coaches at their respective areas, they totally sucked as Co-DCs using someone else's schemes.
That was a mistake Miles made that I doubt he ever makes again in his coaching career. Live and learn.
Posted on 9/2/09 at 1:47 am to LSU Yellow Cab
LSU Yellow Cab, I agree that Bama had several turnovers, but LSU still put the points up on them where Scott and Keiland ran all over them for 180 yards.
The defense played well in that game forcing turnovers, but Coffee ran over them. Had LSU had any semblance of leadership on defense they wouldn't have been near getting those points. 2 TDs came of an INT basically, a third in OT following a demoralizing INT. Other than that, Bama had an INT and then the fumble on the first drive which was a great play. LSU easily could've won that game had they not shot themselves in the foot with 4 INTS. Bama got 3 TDS of those INTs. LSU got one TD off a turnover.
Jefferson struggled in the 2nd half mainly because Arky adjusted and the LSU OCs didn't offer him options. He also didn't have much help from the running game in the 2nd half. Jefferson threw three passes in the 3rd, and was off, but no help from the running game. Same thing in the 4th. Still, he struggled and largely due to inexperience and bad playcalling by Miles and Crowton where they got too conservative.
As for UF, you are correct, it was already 34-14 by the time the Pick 6 came around. UF was almost totally on the defense, and was marred with confusion by almost all the defensive players, but otherwise, LSU could've won every other game. Ole Miss may have been a bit tougher, but we were down to our 3rd QB and our defense seemed to have just quit and looked totally unprepared.
As for Toliver, he got more looks at the end of the season and proved to be a solid receiver in the making. He looked better last season than Lafell did in 2006 before turning it on in 2007 and 2008. Those numbers will go up with JJ at QB than when Lee was there throwing to Lafell or Dickson on every play.
The defense played well in that game forcing turnovers, but Coffee ran over them. Had LSU had any semblance of leadership on defense they wouldn't have been near getting those points. 2 TDs came of an INT basically, a third in OT following a demoralizing INT. Other than that, Bama had an INT and then the fumble on the first drive which was a great play. LSU easily could've won that game had they not shot themselves in the foot with 4 INTS. Bama got 3 TDS of those INTs. LSU got one TD off a turnover.
Jefferson struggled in the 2nd half mainly because Arky adjusted and the LSU OCs didn't offer him options. He also didn't have much help from the running game in the 2nd half. Jefferson threw three passes in the 3rd, and was off, but no help from the running game. Same thing in the 4th. Still, he struggled and largely due to inexperience and bad playcalling by Miles and Crowton where they got too conservative.
As for UF, you are correct, it was already 34-14 by the time the Pick 6 came around. UF was almost totally on the defense, and was marred with confusion by almost all the defensive players, but otherwise, LSU could've won every other game. Ole Miss may have been a bit tougher, but we were down to our 3rd QB and our defense seemed to have just quit and looked totally unprepared.
As for Toliver, he got more looks at the end of the season and proved to be a solid receiver in the making. He looked better last season than Lafell did in 2006 before turning it on in 2007 and 2008. Those numbers will go up with JJ at QB than when Lee was there throwing to Lafell or Dickson on every play.
This post was edited on 9/2/09 at 1:48 am
Posted on 9/2/09 at 1:50 am to MondayMorningMarch
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Proofreading and spell check is your friend!
ovreratted!! whoe neds speel chek i cain red and rite good.
Really is this all you have to say grammar police? When you can only make comments on someones grammar on a message board you are a pathetic little person. This is not a college essay... it's a sports message board. I'm glad you enjoy making yourself feel better by spell checking post rather then looking at it's content. I'm sure it makes you feel superior to someone by commenting on spelling and sentence structure, but frankly i am not going to proof read or spell check a quick post. it's not worth my time just to impress you! Get a life! I'm glad you got feel superior for a day. now crawl back in your hole and go frick yourself!
Posted on 9/2/09 at 1:52 am to Navtiger1
Navtiger, bro don't be so sensitive, especially on this board. They don't require a common sense, IQ, niceness, or a**hole test to sign on this board. Wish they did.... 
It would be nice to be able to have a reasonable lsu, sports, or poli conversation with some reasonable folks on here, but I doubt it happens.
It would be nice to be able to have a reasonable lsu, sports, or poli conversation with some reasonable folks on here, but I doubt it happens.
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