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re: Burrow's every throw and run from 1st half of 2018 season

Posted on 7/17/19 at 8:01 am to
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 8:01 am to
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you mean day 2 or 3 guys?
I asked you to provide quotes and you didn't. Because you can't. You're full of crap and don't even know it
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
19066 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 8:32 am to
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I hope Buckeye Jeaux is right and dances all over us all off-season next year. That would mean Burrow crushed it, LSU played for a title, and Burrow rockets up the draft board. I think Buckeye is a strange guy, but I hope he’s right and we’re wrong.
ditto all this.

With one exception. If Buckeye Jeaux is right in the end it's only by blind luck. He hasn't argued anything well in support of his ever-changing claims of Burrow's prowess over that other QB from up North.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282885 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 8:32 am to
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If Buckeye Jeaux is right in the end it's only by blind luck


You mean the one guy on this board who's known about Burrow before Spring of 2018?

Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
19066 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 8:43 am to
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You mean the one guy on this board who's known about Burrow before Spring of 2018?
yes, him. The one guy on this board who is also so close to Burrow he has no chance of being objective. He has his nose so far up Burrow's butt he has no perspective. In analysis terms, he's guilty of both confirmation bias and selection bias.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282885 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 8:44 am to
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The one guy on this board who is also so close to Burrow he has no chance of being objective.


If he's right, he's right.

But you're already trying to frame the narrative that it will be "luck"

He knows way more about Burrow than you.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
19066 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 8:56 am to
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He knows way more about Burrow than you.
Lol. OK. He also refuses to see attributes in every other QB out there. I've seen Burrow on the field a full season. And Haskins. So have scouts and GMs. Burrow got no draft grades as an eligible junior. Demonstrated results >>>> "I've been watching Burrow since HS."

Not sure why you're choosing this angle, but it's absurd.
This post was edited on 7/17/19 at 8:57 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282885 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 8:57 am to
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Not sure why you're choosing this angle, but it's absurd.


The angle that he knows way more about a QB than you do?

Interesting. Facts are "absurd"
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 9:17 am to
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In analysis terms, he's guilty of both confirmation bias and selection bias.
Says the guy who keeps pimping CFB Film Room as a valid source of college football stats.

That site failed a couple years ago. They're probably happy to wring a little beer money out of it occasionally from Click Bait headlines with bogus stats.
This post was edited on 7/17/19 at 9:18 am
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 9:33 am to
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my post that you quoted clearly says not getting into an argument over statistics, followed by another statement that you conveniently left out that said "but i will address your other nonsense in this thread."
so you said you weren't going to and then you did. Like I said

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you cherry pick and respond to things completely out of context
link? Show me an example

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you have no interest in having any kind of rational discussion
I've posted statistics and facts and quotes from experts to substantiate my points. You have posted a bunch of Asperger's bullcrap

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that subjects all possible parties to equal parameters
I've already debunked this but keep repeating it if you need to

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literally no links or quotes you have posted talk about about haskins in relation to burrow
so you're saying we can't glean ANYTHING useful from all the information that I cited? Does that sound reasonable?

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you absolutely made up stats
look at the post where I broke down the pass plays. Tell me what I made up. Let's see you actually do something useful for once

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the stats that you "broke down" were flat out wrong, and then you straight up lied about the incorrect stats that you did break down
ok, first you just added a parenthetical note in your own post. Wow. Second, prove it. Show I was wrong and that I lied in the post where I broke down the slu game 1st half pass plays.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
9603 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 9:56 am to
5. Joe's Passing was average at best against UGA. I didnt remember this. but he didn't look good.
6. Our Oline was terrific against AU.
7. They weren't good against Ole Miss but it really didn't affect us.
8. Our screens are mostly congested trash with a couple of gems in there.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 9:56 am to
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Lol. OK. He also refuses to see attributes in every other QB out there. I've seen Burrow on the field a full season.
^^More slimy Clam Drippings.

I have never wavered from saying that Lawrence and Haskins are Top-5 QBs in the NFL draft.

And LSU, in 2018, had nothing near the WR rooms of Haskins and Lawrence (and Tua). LSU has some beast WRs coming up, but not yet near the level that H, L, and T had in '18.

Throwing is only HALF the equation. Someone's gotta catch the damn ball !!!
This post was edited on 7/17/19 at 10:02 am
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 9:58 am to
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it's like you haven't been following the conversation at all. Are qb's directly and solely responsible for calling a pass play in the red zone? No. I get why you can't move off of that boat anchor

Then WTF is the purpose of even compiling stats? Your position is ludicrous and indefensible.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:03 am to
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Then WTF is the purpose of even compiling stats?
Wow! THAT's a looooooooong leap. Even for Bamaone
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:07 am to
Jugs
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
19066 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:10 am to
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quote:

Not sure why you're choosing this angle, but it's absurd.
The angle that he knows way more about a QB than you do?

Interesting. Facts are "absurd"
Buckeye Jeaux's painfully biased opinion of Burrow is now a set of facts? Where do you people come from?
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:14 am to


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Jugs


Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
98687 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:16 am to
[quote]so you think Haskins is at least as good of a runner as burrow. Got it.


In typical fashion Madqueen is leaving out anything that supports his biased opinion.[/quote)
] please done l
Ok please don't put me in the same group as Madking. That's emnzrsssing.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:18 am to
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Buckeye Jeaux's painfully biased opinion of Burrow is now a set of facts? Where do you people come from?
Roger has been in on this discussion about Burrow for more than a year.

Neither he nor I have any obligation to get you caught up on hundreds of days of info exchanged
This post was edited on 7/17/19 at 10:18 am
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
19066 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:20 am to
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Neither he nor I have any obligation to get you caught up on hundreds of days of info exchanged
I can only imagine the info you two have exchanged in the last year. Has to be impressive stuff! If only Moffit, O, and NFL GMs were privy to this.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:22 am to
And Roger has clearly stated what he thinks Burrow will do in 2019, and my projection in in my signature line.

What is your projection Clammy? Or are you just going to hide in the tall weeds and throw mud balls?

C'mon football guy, enlighten us, please.
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