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Posted on 7/15/19 at 8:27 am to Damone
quote:qb can't control the playcalling in the rz. Not a fair stat
How did they compare in touchdowns
quote:also not a fair stat. As the quote stated, Haskins threw behind the l.o.s. much more. Also, burrow was still new to the team. However, the passing game improved and burrow's % went up
completion percentage?
Posted on 7/15/19 at 8:32 am to bfniii
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Not a fair stat
Posted on 7/15/19 at 8:36 am to bfniii
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also not a fair stat. As the quote stated, Haskins threw behind the l.o.s. much more. Also, burrow was still new to the team. However, the passing game improved and burrow's % went up
Damone doesn’t understand that this is a pass completion and passing TD.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 8:38 am to Damone
You post that stupid emoji without responding to the point. Can the qb call his own passing play for a td in the rd? Yes or no.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 8:47 am to bfniii
So were O and E the problem or what? Look, Burrow is a good QB for LSU given the past run of players at the position, but to belittle the production of someone like Haskins and to try and act like Burrow is a better player is ignoring reality. The stats bear it out.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 8:48 am to R11
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You guys have serious issues.
I’ve never seen a group of posters so dedicated to bringing negativity to a topic as you and few more here do concerning CEO and LSU football program.
It’s amazing admins of this site continue to let y’all post. I’m all for objectivity but you people take it to the next level. 90% of y’alls posts are rehashing same tired argument and for what? Hoping the guy will fail so you can pound your chest on a message board? Are you people really that insecure?
You’d rather be right than for LSU to have success.
That’s fricked up. Takes a special type person to be that way.
Les miles is gone. Ed O is our football coach. Get the frick over it.
Yikes, that's a big melt. Who knew asking about a stats comparison was so touchy.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 8:53 am to R11
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You’d rather be right than for LSU to have success.
That’s fricked up. Takes a special type person to be that way.
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Les miles is gone. Ed O is our football coach. Get the frick over it.
Did anyone mention Miles? If so, I missed it.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 8:59 am to Damone
quote:why are you saying there is a problem? We're discussing the direct comparison between Haskins and burrow throwing downfield. You were the one who brought up the irrelevant stat of passing touchdowns
So were O and E the problem or what?
quote:I posted facts and a quote from an analyst
to belittle the production of someone like Haskins
quote:you mean the reality of statistics? Because that's what I posted.
ignoring reality
quote:that's what this conversation is about because they kind of don't bear that out
The stats bear it out
Posted on 7/15/19 at 9:02 am to bfniii
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You were the one who brought up the irrelevant stat of passing touchdowns
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you mean the reality of statistics? Because that's what I posted.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 9:04 am to TigerLunatik
As always, can't just be a straight up comparison. Now it has to be broken down into DOWNFIELD passing. Because otherwise it isn't a conversation whatsoever. Haskins' stats unfortunately blow Burrow's out of the water.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 9:06 am to Damone
I don't remember exactly how this discussion topic started, but it seems like the downfield throwing ability was singled out as a seperate comparison of the players.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 9:13 am to R11
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It’s amazing admins of this site continue to let y’all post
posting facts about Ed Orgeron and his tenure isnt a bannable offense.
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I’m all for objectivity but you people take it to the next level
no you're not or you wouldnt want posters banned because they post objective facts about O's tenure.
quote:
You’d rather be right than for LSU to have success.
That’s fricked up. Takes a special type person to be that way.
where are these lsu fans that want lsu to lose under O? they dont exist.
this is just a bullshite narrative created by O cultists.
quote:
Les miles is gone. Ed O is our football coach. Get the frick over it.
who isnt over it?
God forbid O gets held to the same standard miles was.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 9:16 am to Rickdaddy4188
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where are these lsu fans that want lsu to lose under O? they dont exist.
Rouge openly said that he wanted Orgeron to fail so that we could get a new coach ASAP. Yet he was on the score board for every game getting just as excited as everyone else when we played week and won.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 9:18 am to TigerLunatik
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don't remember exactly how this discussion topic started, but it seems like the downfield throwing ability was singled out as a seperate comparison of the players.
and his untrained eye watching TV broadcast was his proof.
what I want to know is why didnt Burrow have a draftable grade last year? why was there no buzz about him leaving or staying since he is a better qb than the #15 pick.
why isnt he a favorite for the Heisman since it's very evident that he is a top 5 pick?
I dont know a single lsu fan that doesnt love Burrow and it sucks having to bring these questions up.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 9:24 am to Rickdaddy4188
All valid questions. My uniformed opinion is that Burrow was never gonna be a one and done at LSU. The below fantastic numbers that were more the fault of other players and playcalling probably didn't help either.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 9:28 am to TigerLunatik
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Rouge openly said that he wanted Orgeron to fail so that we could get a new coach ASAP. Yet he was on the score board for every game getting just as excited as everyone else when we played week and won
it's just a bullshite narrative that O cultists use when we bring up actual areas of concern in the program.
you and I both know there is a set of posters that cant stand seeing anything that doesnt point to O being one of the best coaches in cfb and his time at LSU as amazing.
who cares about our record against p5 teams that were good enough to not lose 5 or more games now that O is the coach.
who cares about playing down to competition now that O is out coach?
who cares about being dreadful on offense now that O is the coach?
who cares about never being competitive against bama now that O is the coach?
who cares about averaging the 5th best class in the sec since O has taken over?
who cares about winning any title of any kind now that O is here?
who cares about having a lead against bama for a single second now that O is here?
the above questions are about OBJECTIVE FACTS(not bashing or defending) of O's tenure. just the mere mentioning of them gets you labeled a basher.
its pathetic.ive never seen a coach accomplish so little and get put in,"above reproach" status.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 9:30 am to TigerLunatik
bruh I love Burrow as a player. he is warrior and he will have my loyalty forever for the a&m game.
the sad part is that no one would ever post anything remotely negative about Burrow if Bucknut wasnt a poster here and he wouldnt lose his kind anytime someone doesnt say Burrow is God's gift to qb play.
isnt it funny that the production of other QBs arent of their own making and the lack of Burrow's production falls on everyone else's shoulders? but let him tell it... he isnt biased.
the sad part is that no one would ever post anything remotely negative about Burrow if Bucknut wasnt a poster here and he wouldnt lose his kind anytime someone doesnt say Burrow is God's gift to qb play.
isnt it funny that the production of other QBs arent of their own making and the lack of Burrow's production falls on everyone else's shoulders? but let him tell it... he isnt biased.
This post was edited on 7/15/19 at 9:39 am
Posted on 7/15/19 at 10:01 am to Damone
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As always, can't just be a straight up comparison. Now it has to be broken down into DOWNFIELD passing. Because otherwise it isn't a conversation whatsoever. Haskins' stats unfortunately blow Burrow's out of the water.
Any notion that Burrow is a top 5 pick is silly. I haven't watched enough of Haskins to make any comparison. But, to try to say you can make a straight up statistical comparison is why there can't be any legitimate football discussion here. Haskins stats are better than Burrow's and that's a quantitative assessment, albeit shallow, but it is a quantitative assessment. However, there's a huge disparity in the style of offense that obviously favors QB statistics in Meyer's offense. This gif is a pass, contributes 9 yards per attempt, and adds a touchdown. But, Haskins hasn't done anything but hand the ball off.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 10:04 am to The First Cut
We are in agreement that OSU's offense is light years better than what LSU has been running. I've always said Burrow would undoubtedly be putting up better numbers on another team
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