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re: Burrow Jumps Up the list of Odds for Heisman

Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:30 am to
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:30 am to
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I'm referring to thousands of Ohio State fans who loved Haskins, but believed Burrow won the competition for the Ohio State starting QB job.


Based on what? Certainly not on-field play, so clearly there is a non-football reason at play here.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:41 am to
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As I previously stated, IMO Joe Burrow is a very good QB. He's going to be one of my favorite Tigers for a very long time. My appreciation for him choosing to come to LSU is off the charts. I'm sorry that isn't enough praise for you.
All that will be academic in a matter of weeks. We'll soon see how Joe stacks up with a year's assimilation and a leading-edge offensive scheme.

Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25015 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 9:16 am to
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I'm referring to thousands of Ohio State fans who loved Haskins, but believed Burrow won the competition for the Ohio State starting QB job.


Based on what? Certainly not on-field play, so clearly there is a non-football reason at play here.


I mean this isn't true, he's not an OSU fan clearly, and has no clue what is going on.

Haskins was the presumed starter the entire offseason last year...but burrow played better in the spring game!

Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 9:25 am to
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Haskins was the presumed starter the entire offseason last year...but burrow played better in the spring game!
presumed starter? By who? You? This was a wide-open competition.

A poll of Ohio State fans right after the Spring game, fans voted almost 2 to 1 for Burrow over Haskins.

If Haskins was such an overwhelming fan favorite, why did most (by far) prefer Burrow?
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12470 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 9:29 am to
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We'll soon see how Joe stacks up with a year's assimilation and a leading-edge offensive scheme. 
The offense may be improved with a few new schemes brought in by Brady, but a
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leading-edge offensive scheme
is a pipe dream.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 9:33 am to
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is a pipe dream.

Your opinion. We'll soon all see if your opinion is right or wrong.
This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 9:34 am
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25015 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 9:33 am to
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A poll of Ohio State fans right after the Spring game, fans voted almost 2 to 1 for Burrow over Haskins.



The fans don't matter dude...they never have. The coaches had Haskins as the starter after he came into the Michigan game @ Michigan and helped get the W.

Who cares about a poll. Fans are always looking for the shiny toy etc. You keep going to data that is in no way meaningful. Let me just say this to you again: SPRING GAMES DON'T MEAN ANYTHING. Nothing, zero, zilch. It's nice to get the young guys into the stadium to hear the fans cheer etc., but it doesn't mean anything when real games are played.

You using spring game stats and polls is clearly why you are clueless about anything realistically related to football
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10358 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 9:35 am to
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presumed starter? By who? You?


The coaching staff that places him higher on the depth chart than burrow for the 2017 season and played him all of the snaps vs Michigan after Barrett went down.

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This was a wide-open competition.


Wrong. That was fall camp leading into 2017.

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A poll of Ohio State fans right after the Spring game, fans voted almost 2 to 1 for Burrow over Haskins.


And it means absolutely nothing. The coaching staff made it very clear who they thought the better player was.

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If Haskins was such an overwhelming fan favorite, why did most (by far) prefer Burrow?


Where does his post say anything about haskins being a fan favorite dumbass?
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33893 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 9:41 am to
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Keeping it "apples and apples" so making a list of Power-5 QBs who transferred then started, and:
1) Had no Winter workouts and no Spring workouts with his team
2) Had one of the least experienced WR rooms in the nation
3) Had 3200+ yards of Total Offense
4) And whose team finished in the AP Top-10


He made the choice to transfer. You don't get a different set of rules for a situation for which you volunteered.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 9:43 am to
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The fans don't matter dude...

WTF?

That is EXACTLY what we are talking about. I said that I am not the ONLY fan who thinks Burrow is as good as or better than elite QB's like Haskins.

Sheesh. Pay attention!!!
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 9:46 am to
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He made the choice to transfer.
Yeah. So what!

It is still context to Burrow's numbers in 2018.

And again, we'll all soon see what Burrow can do... and whose analysis is full of shite and whose isn't.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10358 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 9:48 am to
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That is EXACTLY what we are talking about. I said that I am not the ONLY fan who thinks Burrow is as good as or better than elite QB's like Haskins.


You are the only fan that still thinks burrow is better than haskins. Fan poll results from before haskins having the best season in program history and burrow struggles to complete 50% of his passes for half the season are not relevant data points.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10358 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 9:51 am to
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It is still context to Burrow's numbers in 2018.


It’s not. No more than last year was burrow’s 4th year in college vs 4 combined years for the other 3 players.

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And again, we'll all soon see what Burrow can do... and whose analysis is full of shite and whose isn't.


You said this last year with the heisman conversation and top 5 qb in the country nonsense, bitch boy. Still waiting on those soon enoughs.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 9:54 am to
And again, the rubber hits the road in a matter of weeks. We'll see what Joe looks like in a wide-open Spread offense.

Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33893 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 9:56 am to
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Yeah. So what!

It is still context to Burrow's numbers in 2018.

And again, we'll all soon see what Burrow can do... and whose analysis is full of shite and whose isn't.




Everyone has a situation.

You mean to tell me the great Joe Burrow can't outperform someone that was in high school for the previous 2 seasons while he was on a college roster? Hell, Lawrence didn't even start every game.
This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 9:58 am
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 9:58 am to
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You mean to tell me the great Joe Burrow can't outperform someone that was in high school for the previous 3 seasons while he was on a college roster?
Huh? who was in high school for which previous seasons? You've lost me on this one. Be more specific.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10358 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 10:00 am to
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And again, the rubber hits the road in a matter of weeks. We'll see what Joe looks like in a wide-open Spread offense.


And again, the rubber hit the road last year when you guaranteed burrow would be in the heisman conversation after Georgia and be viewed as a top 5 qb and better than haskins by the end of the season. None of that shite happened. You don’t know anything.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33893 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 10:03 am to
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And again, the rubber hit the road last year when you guaranteed burrow would be in the heisman conversation after Georgia and be viewed as a top 5 qb and better than haskins by the end of the season. None of that shite happened. You don’t know anything.



Did he really say that?

So Buckeye already ruined his credibility last season.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33893 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 10:06 am to
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Huh? who was in high school for which previous seasons? You've lost me on this one. Be more specific.



You do realize Trevor Lawrence was a true freshman last season, right? And not even starting every game. Burrow should've smoked him just based on being immersed in the college game for the past few seasons when Lawerence was in high school.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 10:12 am to
Dude didn’t even know Lawrence was a true freshman last season
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