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re: Burrow is the best complete QB in the SEC. True or False?
Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:14 pm to TigerLunatik
Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:14 pm to TigerLunatik
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TigerLunatik
I gotta tell ya Lunatik, you're one of my absolute favorite posters.


I loved that gif last night. I love it just as much tonight.

It fits perfectly.

Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:14 pm to RogerTheShrubber
That can be your little secret lmao.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:18 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Possibly, but not all the pressure was from the DL
He was terrible on third down.
The foundation of the pass rush is the defensive line. It enables the defense.
When we look back years from now we may say that Clemson line was one of CFB's all-time greatest lines. And you say all we have to do is what they did.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:24 pm to Goldrush25
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The foundation of the pass rush is the defensive line. It enables the defense.
When we look back years from now we may say that Clemson line was one of CFB's all-time greatest lines. And you say all we have to do is what they did.
That's an incredible oversimplication of what happened and anything I said, as we were discussing Tua vs a 12 game schedule.
This post was edited on 5/20/19 at 11:29 pm
Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:38 pm to earl keese
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earl keese
I thought the same thing.

Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:45 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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That's an incredible oversimplication
Simple and nega go hand in hand.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:57 pm to la_birdman
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I thought the same thing.


Maybe he should change his name to Waffle Jeaux or Crawfish Jeaux.
Pretty odd to say something on one page then say the complete opposite a page later.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:59 pm to TigerLunatik
This thread still going? What am I missing? 

Posted on 5/21/19 at 12:07 am to 1BIGTigerFan
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This thread still going?
HELL YEAH!

quote:
What am I missing?
You're missing all the fun TigerFan. Pull up a seat, kick your shoes off, get comfortable and stay a while.


It's getting late into the night. Someone's bound to make an arse out of themselves. You don't want to miss out on that, do you?

Posted on 5/21/19 at 12:10 am to Goldrush25
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The foundation of the pass rush is the defensive line. It enables the defense.
you have to realize that youre conversing with someone that used tackles and passes defended to rank DEs.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:50 am to RogerTheShrubber
Gee Roger. It looks like the O-Bashers have given up on arguing about actual football (smart move for them) and taken the battle to Nit-Picking-Word-Games. Earl came up with this gem:
So yeah, of course it was "not likely" that Burrow would have been drafted in '19 - his stats were weighted down by poor scheme, and by mediocre O-Line and WR play. But he was still intrinsically one of the 5 best QBs in college ball.
Burrow is the very same QB this season, but his stats will jump because:
1) A VASTLY IMPROVED SCHEME - The Spread/RPO is a superior offene.
2) By an improved O-Line who also will usually be under 2.5 seconds pass rush defending,
3) Receivers who will be more in synch with Joe, and will be most often catching short high-percentage throws
An additional plus for Joe-
4) A Spread/RPO QB is a hot item in the NFL these days
So, Joe will be essentially be the same QB, but will have vastly better stats in 2019. Obviously, IMO, Joe's skill set was Top-5 among QBs in '19, but his stats were not.
I think he almost certainly would have been drafted in '19, but in the later rounds.
So bottom line:
Joe was a Top-5 QB in skills, etc. in '19, but not in stats.
This season Joe will have the same skills, etc, but will also have the stats
Maybe if we can catch Earl in a sober moment, he'll be able to comprehend such distinctions... or maybe not!
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Two different points:
1. Burrow was one of the 5 best QBs last season. IMO, he was.
2. Could Burrow have been drafted in the '19 draft as a top-5 QB pick. Not likely.
So in one post, he says Burrow wouldn't be a top 5 QB with last seasons stats, then he turns around one page later and says that Burrow was one of the 5 best QB's last season, in his opinion.
Yet still not be one of the top-5 QB's picked in the 2019 draft.
So yeah, of course it was "not likely" that Burrow would have been drafted in '19 - his stats were weighted down by poor scheme, and by mediocre O-Line and WR play. But he was still intrinsically one of the 5 best QBs in college ball.
Burrow is the very same QB this season, but his stats will jump because:
1) A VASTLY IMPROVED SCHEME - The Spread/RPO is a superior offene.
2) By an improved O-Line who also will usually be under 2.5 seconds pass rush defending,
3) Receivers who will be more in synch with Joe, and will be most often catching short high-percentage throws
An additional plus for Joe-
4) A Spread/RPO QB is a hot item in the NFL these days
So, Joe will be essentially be the same QB, but will have vastly better stats in 2019. Obviously, IMO, Joe's skill set was Top-5 among QBs in '19, but his stats were not.
I think he almost certainly would have been drafted in '19, but in the later rounds.
So bottom line:
Joe was a Top-5 QB in skills, etc. in '19, but not in stats.
This season Joe will have the same skills, etc, but will also have the stats
Maybe if we can catch Earl in a sober moment, he'll be able to comprehend such distinctions... or maybe not!
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 3:53 am
Posted on 5/21/19 at 4:00 am to Buckeye Jeaux
You're caught in a lie, deal with it. Now I'm showing you your posts regarding it.
You posted it. Not Earl, not me, you posted it.
Actually you have it backwards. You were the one who said that he wouldn't be a top 5 QB and in the following page, you said the exact opposite.
You said it, not Earl. He even showed you YOUR posts confirming it. Point the blame at everyone but yourself, even when posts of your own confirm it.
.
You posted it. Not Earl, not me, you posted it.
quote:
Buckeye says Burrow wouldn't be a top 5 QB with last seasons stats, then he turns around one page later and says that Burrow was one of the 5 best QB's last season, in his opinion.
Actually you have it backwards. You were the one who said that he wouldn't be a top 5 QB and in the following page, you said the exact opposite.
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Burrow was one of the 5 best QBs last season. IMO, he was.
You said it, not Earl. He even showed you YOUR posts confirming it. Point the blame at everyone but yourself, even when posts of your own confirm it.
.
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 4:11 am
Posted on 5/21/19 at 10:33 am to 1BIGTigerFan
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This thread still going? What am I missing?
Joe Burrow might be the best QB that's ever lived, that's all.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 10:36 am to Rickdaddy4188
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that used tackles and passes defended to rank DEs.
And you're the idiot who said tackles =/= production.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 10:36 am to Goldrush25
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Joe Burrow might be the best QB that's ever lived, that's all.
"Might"?
frick YOU, you negative miserable hater. If your so miserable go cheer for Bama CUCK. Pathetic sack of shite you are.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 10:48 am to la_birdman
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You're caught in a lie, deal with it. Now I'm showing you your posts regarding it.
Yeah a-hole. I left out "QB" in one sentence, and you and your jerk circle call it a lie. LOL
You assclowns are grabbing at straws.
And if you can't comprehend that scheme can completely change stats, you shouldn't be commenting about football.
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 10:52 am
Posted on 5/21/19 at 10:56 am to lsu2006
When I look at Jeaux Burreaux, I see a mix of Joe Montana, Steve Young, Dan Marino, Brett Favre, Tom Brady, and Peyton Manning all in one. Hopefully Jeaux Brady will add a little Drew Brees to that.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 10:57 am to Damone
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When I look at Jeaux Burreaux, I see a mix of Joe Montana, Steve Young, Dan Marino, Brett Favre, Tom Brady, and Peyton Manning all in one.
Except with more toughness and street smarts than all of these pussies combined.
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