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Brennan, Stingley or Chase for the Heisman Trophy
Posted on 8/5/20 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 8/5/20 at 12:15 pm
Vegas has betting odds for Myles Brennan, Derek Stingley Jr. and Ja'Marr Chase to win the Heisman Trophy: LINK /
It'd sure be a great story if Stingley won as a defensive player.
It'd sure be a great story if Stingley won as a defensive player.
Posted on 8/5/20 at 12:43 pm to SpitzFan
Brennan!
If he doesn't have a great year, Chase's chance is between slim and none.
There has been one DB and it was just politics.
If he doesn't have a great year, Chase's chance is between slim and none.
There has been one DB and it was just politics.
Posted on 8/5/20 at 12:57 pm to Gus007
Politics? What did politics have to do with it? Woodson had a great year. And he played PR and WR as well. That's the only way a DB is gonna win.
I mean he had 2 WR tds, 1 rushing and 1 punt return.. Along with being a shutdown corner with 7 INTs. You can call it a fluke all you want. But if that's a fluke then you are saying that no CB should EVER win. I mean in this day in age there are 5+ QBs that have the stats Peyton did as a Senior. Not too many CBs having the season Woodson had though...
For instance. Peyton Manning's senior year: 60% Completion %, 3800 yards, 36 TDs, 11 INTs, and 147 college QB rating.
Sam Howell's FRESHMAN year last year: 61% completion %, 3641 yards, 38 TDs, 7 INTs, and 160 college QB rating.
Like everyone calling it bullshite.. But in reality Woodson's stats are much more eyepopping. And if you disagree. Then you agree that NO player other than QB or RB should EVER win
I mean he had 2 WR tds, 1 rushing and 1 punt return.. Along with being a shutdown corner with 7 INTs. You can call it a fluke all you want. But if that's a fluke then you are saying that no CB should EVER win. I mean in this day in age there are 5+ QBs that have the stats Peyton did as a Senior. Not too many CBs having the season Woodson had though...
For instance. Peyton Manning's senior year: 60% Completion %, 3800 yards, 36 TDs, 11 INTs, and 147 college QB rating.
Sam Howell's FRESHMAN year last year: 61% completion %, 3641 yards, 38 TDs, 7 INTs, and 160 college QB rating.
Like everyone calling it bullshite.. But in reality Woodson's stats are much more eyepopping. And if you disagree. Then you agree that NO player other than QB or RB should EVER win
This post was edited on 8/5/20 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:00 pm to SoFunnyItsNot
ESPN played Woodson's high lights repeatedly, and repeatedly played Peyton's interceptions.
It was politics!
It was politics!
Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:09 pm to Gus007
Peyton Manning could not beat FLA. that’s why he lost his senior year.
Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:48 pm to Champs
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all 3..tie
That'd be impressive
Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:54 pm to SpitzFan
They should honestly just split the Heisman into an offensive and defensive category and get rid of the charade that they’ll ever actually consider giving it to a defensive player again
Posted on 8/5/20 at 2:05 pm to SpitzFan
If Stingley can get like 9 or 10 ints and continue to shutdown #1 recievers then he has a shot.
Posted on 8/5/20 at 2:26 pm to SpitzFan
Brennan is the best bet because its a QB award.
Chase and Stingley are both special enough that they could win it.
Stingley more likely IMO because Chase isn't going to be a returner.
If Stingley had similiar production as last year (won't happen, noone is throwing at him) at DB, returned 3-4 punts for TDs and caught 3 TDs and had a couple of hundred yards at WR he could do it for sure.
Chase and Stingley are both special enough that they could win it.
Stingley more likely IMO because Chase isn't going to be a returner.
If Stingley had similiar production as last year (won't happen, noone is throwing at him) at DB, returned 3-4 punts for TDs and caught 3 TDs and had a couple of hundred yards at WR he could do it for sure.
Posted on 8/5/20 at 2:29 pm to Gus007
Idk what if chase catches like 60% of his TDs? And he has 35 TDS.
A second 20 TD season may get him a trophy.
A second 20 TD season may get him a trophy.
Posted on 8/5/20 at 3:14 pm to Solo Cam
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If Stingley had similiar production as last year (won't happen, noone is throwing at him) at DB, returned 3-4 punts for TDs and caught 3 TDs and had a couple of hundred yards at WR he could do it for sure.
This seems almost impossible. There's got to be a lower bar than this, especially in this chaotic season.
Posted on 8/5/20 at 3:16 pm to SpitzFan
quote:Sorry the bar isn’t getting lowered for a defensive player to win the Heisman trophy.
This seems almost impossible. There's got to be a lower bar than this, especially in this chaotic season.
It absolutely can be done. He just has to be he best player in the country to do it.
Posted on 8/5/20 at 3:28 pm to Solo Cam
Since returners are instructed to fair catch, most of the time, it further diminishes the marginal opportunity for a defensive back to win.
Posted on 8/5/20 at 4:28 pm to Gus007
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DB and it was just politics.
Woodson had an incredible year.
Posted on 8/5/20 at 5:47 pm to SoFunnyItsNot
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What did politics have to do with it? Woodson had a great year. And he played PR and WR as well. That's the only way a DB is gonna win.
I mean he had 2 WR tds, 1 rushing and 1 punt return.. Along with being a shutdown corner with 7 INTs.
Champ Bailey had very impressive stats the next year and wasn’t even close to being a finalist.
Posted on 8/5/20 at 5:48 pm to BlackAngus
I’m not sure he’ll get thrown at that much. OCs will be terrified of this kid.
Posted on 8/5/20 at 5:58 pm to alajones
You need a “story” to make it these days as a defender as a finalist. And even with that 70 percent of the voters won’t vote for anyone whose not a QB or RB
Posted on 8/5/20 at 6:12 pm to BlackAngus
He may not have 9 or 10 targets this year. All joking aside, he won’t have enough targets to get that many
Posted on 8/5/20 at 9:34 pm to SoFunnyItsNot
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And he played PR and WR as well. That's the only way a DB is gonna win.
TM7 proved that you have to play on the offensive side of the ball to win it.
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