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re: Breakdown of Production By QB

Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:19 pm to
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:19 pm to
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Lee has the intangibles that Jefferson doesn't.


It seems like it.

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The cringe factor is absent also. A couple of years ago, every time Lee threw a pass, I cringed.


Glad it's gone for you, I still fear every drop back. Guess it's just 2008 playing out in my head.

That first pass he threw to Shep
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:21 pm to
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Without looking Id guess this was due to the 1 long run Jefferson had.



It was.

But if you took out each QB's big play (83 yard run for JJ, 49 yard pass for Lee)... JJ still had better yards per play.

I think it's equally silly to credit or discount either one and not the other.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296085 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:21 pm to
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If you watch the replay, JJ was hit as he threw. Not entirely his fault.


Looks like he got rid of the ball before he was hit. He just hasn't been effective throwing the football.
Posted by Bayou Sam
Istanbul
Member since Aug 2009
5921 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:23 pm to
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I think it's equally silly to credit or discount either one and not the other.


I see your point, but you have to admit that it's much more likely that we'll see another 49 yard pass from Lee than that we'll see an 83 yard run from JJ.
Posted by Boh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
12361 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:23 pm to
My palms were sweating a little when Lee came in against Tennessee after the JJ interception. My heart dropped when he just slung that first pass to Ware (perfect pass FWIW).

Now that we've seen him through significant playing time this year, I'm more relaxed. I felt fine watching him on that last drive. After watching the replay of the fade route a few times, Lee had a very confident look to him.

We should be fine... 14-0 IMO FWIW FTW
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12995 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:26 pm to
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But if you took out each QB's big play (83 yard run for JJ, 49 yard pass for Lee)... JJ still had better yards per play.

I think it's equally silly to credit or discount either one and not the other.


I disagree with this logic.
The run by JJ was a once in a career fluke.
A 40+ yard pass from Lee is not a fluke.
If he got enough playing time, he would probably get a long gainer fairly often.
Posted by cajunjj
Madison, AL
Member since May 2008
7427 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:26 pm to
No surprise, JL is the best qb. Stats. or for loosers!!!
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:26 pm to
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Glad it's gone for you, I still fear every drop back.


of JL? I realize two years ago....

But do you have the same feeling when JJ drops back to pass? He has HOW MANY ints this year?????
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:27 pm to
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The run by JJ was a once in a career fluke.


People keep saying this, but it's silly.

While I agree that Lee is much more likely to get a 49 yard pass (largely because the success of that doesn't entirely depend on him), JJ's run wasn't a "fluke."

It was a really well designed play that JJ read perfectly, made a guy miss and took to the house.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

But do you have the same feeling when JJ drops back to pass?


Yes.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81953 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:28 pm to
7 in 6 games, 2 of which he only played about half of
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:29 pm to
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Now that we've seen him through significant playing time this year, I'm more relaxed. I felt fine watching him on that last drive. After watching the replay of the fade route a few times, Lee had a very confident look to him.



My tensions ease by the performance.

And I agree. Lee looks like a completely different player out there. Excited to see him continue to play.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296085 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:29 pm to
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Glad it's gone for you, I still fear every drop back. Guess it's just 2008 playing out in my head.

That first pass he threw to Shep


Lee isn't the one throwing repeated INT's this year. The QB battle is pretty settled according to the fanbase at this point regardless of who plays. The offense looks infinitely more confident with Lee at the helm. The constant attempts to prove otherwise really reek of desperation.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

Looks like he got rid of the ball before he was hit. He just hasn't been effective throwing the football.



Yeah, I think he got rid of it before the hit. The pressure may have forced him to throw it sooner than he liked, but it was a stupid throw.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:30 pm to
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The QB battle is pretty settled according to the fanbase at this point regardless of who plays.


Going with the fanbases thoughts is always brilliant.

quote:

The constant attempts to prove otherwise really reek of desperation.


I guess you are accusing me here, but whatever.
This post was edited on 10/12/10 at 3:31 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37012 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:32 pm to
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However, acting like the offense was an abortion with Jefferson at the helm is truly a misnomer.


It was pretty bad for most of the first 5 games.

Thanks for the edit though.
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12995 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:33 pm to
Whether he got hit before the throw is largely irrelevant.

The real problem is that he never saw the defender.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:35 pm to
I don't disagree. I put that INT 100% on JJ.

It was the same mistake Lee made repeatedly in 2008.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296085 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:36 pm to
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Going with the fanbases thoughts is always brilliant.


Aren't you attempting to prove your point to the fanbase? If not, are you trying to convince Miles? Does he post here?
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 3:38 pm to
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Aren't you attempting to prove your point to the fanbase? If not, are you trying to convince Miles? Does he post here?




What the hell are you talking about?

You said Lee is the QB cause the fanbase thinks so.

I'm saying that siding with the general thoughts of the fanbase is generally a really dumb idea.
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