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re: Brady apologists...

Posted on 2/12/09 at 6:04 am to
Posted by Six Saint
Cypress, TX
Member since Aug 2007
925 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 6:04 am to
TJ is the REAL DEAL as a coach. Just hope he can recruit the same way. Things are definitely improved. I liked Brady as a recruiter bot was not impressed with his X&O abilily nor with his handling of varios players personalitis.

TJ has broght these guys together and it is paying off. Tasmin is now blossoming as a player that we had been waiting for and he is doing it by not only scoring but also by defense and being unselfish with the ball.

Now if we can get Temple to play smarter with the ball or move Terry martin back into the atrting lineup. Looks like Terry get the message from Coach TJ.
This post was edited on 2/12/09 at 6:05 am
Posted by KanomieTiger
Member since Jan 2007
307 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 7:53 am to
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The greatest improvement Johnson brought is movement on offense. There is motion, screens, pics and hustle. I did not like the firing... but the proof is 20-4.


I agree with this. I read an article in the paper the other day that mentioned that Brady emphasized points off defense and the fact that he didn't usually install his offense until after the season started. It showed.

This team plays well on both ends of the floor. Johnson talks about how he wants the players to have fun on the offensive end of the floor, and it shows. He has confidence in the players being able to score. The players feed off of that. If one of them misses a shot, it isn't the end of the world.

Posted by Sock
in the middle of nowhere
Member since Feb 2005
437 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 8:55 am to
These are Brady's players he gets all of the credit. The only problem with this team is that now you have the 9th and the 10th players coming off the bench taking playing time from the starters. Brady would have never allowed that. Plus, we are wasting to much energy each game. It has been proven under Brady's scheme that you can coast your way to victory in the second half by saving some of that energy for the next game. Sure you might lose a few but its part of the process.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
33138 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 9:04 am to
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Tiger20, LSUbeatles, Badcat, xiv, Shotclock, Bobby Moore (closet Brady lover):
This is like an All Star list of bad TD.com posters.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293752 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 9:05 am to
This should be about the overall health of the program. TJ is making huge strides his first season to restore the program to the fervor you saw in the 1980's. Under Brady it was dying, pretty much on life support.
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12969 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 9:16 am to
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2006 was the most talented team at LSU in 16 years. They didn't have to do a whole lot except get the ball to the playmakers and rely on TT and Big Baby to take over. The bottom line is that they were MUCH more talented than '09.


I agree with everything else you said, but this I might argue against.
Don't sell the talent of this 2009 team short.
The 2009 team is a much better outside shooting team than the 2006 team, which makes a big difference.


Posted by Hootie
BR
Member since Aug 2007
2126 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 9:44 am to
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I agree with everything else you said, but this I might argue against.
Don't sell the talent of this 2009 team short.


You MUST be joking! In any event, the refreshing thing for me this year is where Brady would STILL be arguing about the bad no-call at the end of the Alabama game in T-town, Johnson moves on and gets back to coaching his team. Similar to the adage "those who can't play coach", Brady lived by the adage "those who can't coach bitch at the refs". Fundamental difference between TJ and JB in understanding of job duties.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81765 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 9:49 am to
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Brady would have been assailed for those same errors.

not his first few years as coach, but overtime, yes he would have been blamed because his teams proved that they would commit those turnovers consistently
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12969 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 9:57 am to
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You MUST be joking!


So you think the 2006 team shot better from outside than this team?
Posted by Nick Papagorgio
Member since Jan 2006
413 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 10:04 am to
The Brady sympathizers give him way too much credit for the Final Four team in '06. Those guys played together since middle school, and they won in spite of Brady IMHO. When that team was really tested against UCLA and some coaching actually became necessary, they got destroyed. Brady didn't make any adjustments.

Anyway, bottom line, Brady is gone (good riddance) and we got Trent. A definite upgrade by any rational person's measure.
Posted by Hootie
BR
Member since Aug 2007
2126 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 10:09 am to
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So you think the 2006 team shot better from outside than this team?


No, but that's not the single litmus test of which one is better.
Posted by Ice Cold
Over Macho Grande
Member since Jun 2004
18853 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 10:13 am to
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JB should have been gone after the Wisconsin debacle
The UAB game, IMO. He was absolutely lost, did not have them prepared, and had no answers when it quickly became evident that he was being outcoached from the jump ball.
Posted by Nick Papagorgio
Member since Jan 2006
413 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 10:15 am to
Jesus, I forgot about UAB. That was awful.
Posted by Ice Cold
Over Macho Grande
Member since Jun 2004
18853 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 10:16 am to
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It has been proven under Brady's scheme that you can coast your way to victory in the second half by saving some of that energy for the next game. Sure you might lose a few but its part of the process.
What. The. frick.

First of all, Brady didn't have a scheme. He had some talented players and a prayer. Second of all, he lost more than a few games in which the Tigers led big and/or late. It is one of the great discredits to his tenure that these losses occurred.

But your attempt at revision history is impressive, unless this was all sarcasm. In that event, carry on ...
Posted by Nick Papagorgio
Member since Jan 2006
413 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 10:18 am to
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Brady didn't have a scheme


100% correct. He wouldn't know a screen if it fell out of a window.
This post was edited on 2/12/09 at 10:19 am
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81765 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 10:18 am to
People also forget the reason we made it to the final four was one hell of a shot by Darrell Mitchell from NBA range, if not for that play, Brady probably gets fired a year earlier than he did. Brady owes Mitchell for that one, there was no play call whatsoever, it was simple, Mitchell is taking a 3 to win or lose the game. And don't get me wrong, I was fine with him taking a 3 at the time to get us the win, but for there to be no set play, no ball screens for mitchell to get open was ridiculous.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81765 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 10:22 am to
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He had some talented players and a prayer

pretty much sums up my previous post
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143780 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 10:23 am to
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there was no play call whatsoever


ehh, they said it was a play called "Special" to get Mitch isolated on a big man and a small guy guarding Baby giving two options for the play. it worked if you watch the replay. They said Butch called it though
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 10:27 am to
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Admit that firing Brady was the right thing to do. It's time.
Where have you been? On the last day of the regular season last year, I started a thread saying that that was when I would have fired Brady.

I always said that if I'm AD, you get four consecutive sanction-free years, and then I decide. If I keep you after that, then I fire you if you have two consecutive years of regression* or horrible suckage.

Sticking with that philosophy, I would have fired John Brady, the greatest basketball coach of all fricking time, after the end of last season.



*If a team wins the national title one year, loses in the title game the next year, and goes to the elite eight the next year, that's two consecutive seasons of regression, but come on.
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 10:28 am to
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Your time is now...admit that you were wrong and the bashers were right
No. I was right; the bashers were wrong. Brady won two SEC titles and went to a Final Four. Trent Johnson has done no such thing (I'm fairly certain that he will enjoy such successes, though ).
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