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re: Bob Starkey Appreciation Thread
Posted on 4/4/11 at 9:52 pm to Jaketigger
Posted on 4/4/11 at 9:52 pm to Jaketigger
It would have been a nice story if he could have stayed on in some capacity, but if you are going to make an investment of this magnitude and throw all of your chips in with Caldwell then she deserves the opportunity to make those calls.
Is it the wrong decision? Hindsight will tell us.
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Posted on 4/4/11 at 9:53 pm to Jaketigger
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First and foremost because you are a lying POS and don't know shite about the program or the history of LSU basketball.
Go frick yourself for thinking you know me. Have I said a bad word about Starkey? No and I never will. This is the nature of the business. If a coach is fired/resigns the next coach can't be expected to keep the assistants no matter how loyal or great they have been for the program. It is what it is. Would it be nice if Starkey stayed? Sure, but I won't fault Caldwell for bringing in coaches she's familiar with.
This post was edited on 4/4/11 at 9:55 pm
Posted on 4/4/11 at 11:25 pm to Jaketigger
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Jaketigger
I'm sure Starkey is a great guy and from what I have seen he has been a pretty great ambassador for LSU....but like others have pointed out, coaching isn't a stable career. I'd be willing to bet he'll be offered some kush job in the AD making money for nothing.
No need to be a dick.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 12:01 am to saintsfan22
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Go frick yourself for thinking you know me. Have I said a bad word about Starkey? No and I never will. This is the nature of the business. If a coach is fired/resigns the next coach can't be expected to keep the assistants no matter how loyal or great they have been for the program. It is what it is. Would it be nice if Starkey stayed? Sure, but I won't fault Caldwell for bringing in coaches she's familiar with.
You were born the year I started LSU so I highly doubt you attended 1/32 of the womens (or mens for that matter) games my family did from 68 -2009. Where were you when i went to my first game? My guess, not even in nutville since you are a kid. Your old man may have been born then, but likely not.
Starkey is/was regarded as one of the top assistants in the country and SHAME on her for not keeping him in that capacity. His forte' is defense which amazingly carried both Sue's and Pokey's asses through those runs.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 12:09 am to Golfer
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Caldwell wanted to keep her staff.
I find it a very good sign that Caldwell's entire staff is coming over with her.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 12:12 am to Jaketigger
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You were born the year I started LSU so I highly doubt you attended 1/32 of the womens (or mens for that matter) games my family did from 68 -2009. Where were you when i went to my first game? My guess, not even in nutville since you are a kid. Your old man may have been born then, but likely not.
Good for you nobody gives a shite.
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Starkey is/was regarded as one of the top assistants in the country and SHAME on her for not keeping him in that capacity. His forte' is defense which amazingly carried both Sue's and Pokey's asses through those runs.
Yea nobody doubts his contributions and everyone is appreciative of his many years of great work at LSU(that's what this thread is supposed to be about not how long some crotchety old frick has been going to games). Still considering his contributions Coach Caldwell deserves the right to pick her own staff.
This post was edited on 4/5/11 at 12:15 am
Posted on 4/5/11 at 12:15 am to Jaketigger
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Starkey is/was regarded as one of the top assistants in the country
And if he truly is, he understands this is part of the business.
He has, in fact, been incredibly fortunate that he hasn't had to move 15 times in the last 20+ years like most assistants do. Is he a great person? Undoubtedly so, but at the end of the day it is a business decision.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 12:21 am to TigersOfGeauxld
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I find it a very good sign that Caldwell's entire staff is coming over with her.
So do Tennessee fans
Posted on 4/5/11 at 12:27 am to Golfer
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Undoubtedly so, but at the end of the day it is a business decision.
no it is another screwing by Alleva. See Trent Johnson... Bertman made sure Starkey was protected.
He gives a woman 700+ to coach a team that will lose 2+ million no matter how many fans we think she will get into that stadium because we know La is a broke arse state with broke arse people living there that would rather spend their hard earned money going to football rather than basketball games. it is a hard reality, but that is what it is. he could have taken a local college or successful high school coach and kept Starkey and still lost 2+ million and probably been just as good.
how is that good business for LSU, its students and alumni like myself that are paying TAF every year to keep the tickets we have?
It is not.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 12:34 am to saintsfan22
quote]Yea nobody doubts his contributions and everyone is appreciative of his many years of great work at LSU(that's what this thread is supposed to be about[/quote]
You sure did from your first reply which started my rant. YOU laughed at the fact that he has a sick wife and turned down the head coaching job or didn't allow himself to be considered when Pokey was released and the fact that he took a season on teh brink of disaster and took the team to the Final 4. that is a slap in his face and disrepect towards him! that is what pissed me off.
re: Bob Starkey Appreciation Thread (Posted on 4/4/11 at 9:40 p.m. to Jaketigger)
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If any of you followed the women's program you would know the reason he wanted to stay at LSU was due to his wife's illnes. That is why he turned down other head coaching positions.
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I follow the program I know about his wife's illness but that doesn't make him immune if the new coach wants bring in a new staff. I'm sure Travis Mays wanted to stay as well but that's how the business works. 
Posted on 4/5/11 at 12:36 am to Jaketigger
Well, since you know so much about WBB, you would know they were breaking even when they were selling out the PMAC 4-5 years ago.
You sound way too emotionally invested in this to rationally think through this, FWIW.
You sound way too emotionally invested in this to rationally think through this, FWIW.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 12:38 am to Jaketigger
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turned down the head coaching job or didn't allow himself to be considered when Pokey was released
He didn't want it because it involved less X's and O's which he enjoys the most.
If his wife wasn't ill, you'd feel different about this situation.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 12:41 am to Jaketigger
You really think I was laughing at his wife's illness, jeez you're retarded. As for the rest of your thoughts:
Women's basketball season tickets start at about $2.50 a game that's not going to send anybody to a soup kitchen. You've apparently been going to games for the last 50 years you of all people should know this.
Starkey was there this year with a hall of fame coach and they didn't make the tourney so not likely.
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He gives a woman 700+ to coach a team that will lose 2+ million no matter how many fans we think she will get into that stadium because we know La is a broke arse state with broke arse people living there that would rather spend their hard earned money going to football rather than basketball games.
Women's basketball season tickets start at about $2.50 a game that's not going to send anybody to a soup kitchen. You've apparently been going to games for the last 50 years you of all people should know this.
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. he could have taken a local college or successful high school coach and kept Starkey and still lost 2+ million and probably been just as good.
Starkey was there this year with a hall of fame coach and they didn't make the tourney so not likely.
This post was edited on 4/5/11 at 12:56 am
Posted on 4/5/11 at 12:49 am to Jaketigger
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Jaketigger
Posted on 4/5/11 at 12:52 am to BilJ
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He'll probably get a job in the athletic building and get paid to do jack shite. Boo hoo
Nice, uninformed, off-the cuff response.
Starkey is a basketball coach. He will be coaching basketball somewhere before too long.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 12:57 am to LSUGrad9295
From Bob's Blog today:
Somehow he understands it...
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Choices and Decisions
Everything you do in life involves a choice, a decision on your part. Because you have so many options, you are constantly choosing among alternatives, between what you value more and what you value less. Your choices and actions tell you and others what you truly value the most, or intend that reveals your character. It is only what you do at the moment of choosing, especially when you have to choose between what is right and what is expedient.
Somehow he understands it...
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This post was edited on 4/5/11 at 12:58 am
Posted on 4/5/11 at 12:59 am to Jaketigger
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Jaketigger
Your passion for Starkey is very commendable and well-placed, but you are making yourself look bad.
A new coach has every right to determine who their coaching staff will be. Caldwell spoke about how comfortable and confident she is in her 3 assistants. This is her job now, and her program now. It is not the responsibility of the AD to "find" him a new job within the AD, and that won't happen. As mentioned earlier, Starkey will get another assistant job somewhere, and it will happen sooner than later, and whoever gets him will get a steal. But don't criticize LSU or the new coach.
And fwiw, his wife DID have breast cancer....this is pretty widely known.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 1:18 am to Golfer
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were selling out the PMAC 4-5 years ago.
I went to every game and we only sold it out only 1 time during those 4 consecutive seasons. and no we never broke even. Travel costs killed us during the tournament.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 1:21 am to Golfer
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He didn't want it because it involved less X's and O's which he enjoys the most.
If his wife wasn't ill, you'd feel different about this situation.
that was my original point. he has given 20+ years to those programs and did everything they asked except be considered for the head job.
I would do the same thing if my wife was ill. I honor that and don't shite on it like it appears Alleva did.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 1:24 am to LSUGrad9295
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And fwiw, his wife DID have breast cancer....this is pretty widely known
She had MS also then. See my previous link about the subject. I remember it well from teh 2007 final four.
But the Bayou is home for Starkey and his wife and their two dogs, Miles and Patton. Their basset hound is named after Miles Davis because Starkey loves jazz. Patton, a German shepherd mix, got his name for obvious reasons.
Hayslett has been battling multiple sclerosis since 1990, and one of the biggest things she has to avoid is stress. She calls herself a day-to-day person, and says she doesn't worry about things she can't control.
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