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re: BH "still just a true sophomore QB"
Posted on 9/16/15 at 3:13 pm to navy
Posted on 9/16/15 at 3:13 pm to navy
Harris has now played four full years of football. In his life. Period. At quarterback against SEC defenses trying to learn a pro-style offense after having run nothing but spread in high school during which time he had to make maybe one or two reads each play. Maybe. And the coach made all the presnap adjustments.
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Posted on 9/16/15 at 3:28 pm to White Tiger
quote:It's real easy to see if the coaches or players are calling the checks. When you see the offense line up,the defense line up AND THEN the ENTIRE OFFENSE looks over to the sideline,you know the coaches are calling the checks. If the qb is calling checks there is no need for the "look at me"action.
for one, do not believe that BH checked out of double digit pass plays into run defense
Miles has given 3 qbs audible autonomy. Mett(the 2013 mett),Flynn,and JRUSS were the only qbs that didn't have the "look at me" action.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 3:42 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Miles has given 3 qbs audible autonomy. Mett(the 2013 mett),Flynn,and JRUSS were the only qbs that didn't have the "look at me" action.
You don't think anyone believes that you actually know this.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 3:49 pm to say when
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I knew you were an idiot after reading one of your six paragraph post where you regurgitate stats and percentages because you can't come up with one single original idea in that empty head of yours.
Funny thing... most people have the original idea first, then research to see if the idea is supported by relevant data. That's how they know if the idea is good ... or stupid. Others are just content to look stupid. I mean, they teach the scientific method in what, third grade?
This post was edited on 9/16/15 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 9/16/15 at 3:51 pm to Rickdaddy4188
If he is average in your view, OK. He was ineffective. He could not read a defense or pass effectively. He had the fortune of a great defense in 2011, but that was not enough to beat 'Bama the second time. He did nothing in the SECCG.
We disagree. That is fine, but imo, he was awful.
We disagree. That is fine, but imo, he was awful.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 3:51 pm to SabiDojo
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You're right. Coaches do.
They did a phenomenal job with Nick Marshall over there at Auburn. Really developed him, his knowledge of the position while he was there was breathtaking.
Why do you think they predominantly run spread offenses now in high school? Better yet, why do you think they started running that offense to begin with?
Because it's so easy a caveman can do it.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 4:06 pm to say when
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You don't think anyone believes that you actually know this.
If you know what you're looking at when you watch a football game you can figure things out. Sorry you're football ignorant.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 4:10 pm to White Tiger
quote:Except FACTS prove you wrong.
That is fine, but imo, he was awful.
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He was ineffective
He is the single season and career qb rushing record holder.
Having the 7th best career qb rating in lsu history and top 6 in every major offensive statistic in lsu history proves he was effective.
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pass effectively.
If you say JJ couldn't pass then neither could Matt Flynn. Jordan Jefferson has 2 season with a higher qb rating than Flynn did in 07
You can SAY what you want but Jordan Jefferson was one of the most productive players in lsu history.
You can't be awful and achieve those stats. Now yes his rankings are inflated by the amount of playing time bur an awful player doesnt achieve those stats.
But I digress. Like you said we all have opinions.
This post was edited on 9/16/15 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 9/16/15 at 4:15 pm to sjmabry
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Pro-style offense vs spread offense. Fast forward 2 years, and Harris will be more NFL ready due to our pro-style offense vs a spread QB.
I hear that a lot on this board. So f'n what if Harris is a better NFL QB, it's about the team. Shouldn't the teams needs supercede what a player will do in the NFL. By the way, Mariotta seems to be dpomg pretty well in the NFL. He was not in a so called 'pro style' while the guy he beat out, Mettenburger, was in a 'pro style'.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 4:19 pm to boxcar willie
quote:Go get back in your boxcar, Willie.
I hear that a lot on this board. So f'n what if Harris is a better NFL QB, it's about the team. Shouldn't the teams needs supercede what a player will do in the NFL. By the way, Mariotta seems to be dpomg pretty well in the NFL. He was not in a so called 'pro style' while the guy he beat out, Mettenburger, was in a 'pro style'.
BH will do fine at LSU and will take us to the dance before he graduats.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 4:19 pm to JWill409
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Because it's so easy a caveman can do it.
Exactly. Running the spread means you can put your best athlete at qb. Some spread teams run the same play half the time (zone read)
Posted on 9/16/15 at 4:21 pm to boxcar willie
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He was not in a so called 'pro style' while the guy he beat out, Mettenburger, was in a 'pro style'.
Mariota was named the starter before he ever stepped on the field in a Titans jersey
Posted on 9/16/15 at 4:25 pm to Rickdaddy4188
How much does running a '3 yards and a cloud of dust' pro style offense really prepare a QB for the more modern day NFL offenses?
Posted on 9/16/15 at 4:28 pm to White Tiger
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This post was edited on 9/16/15 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 9/16/15 at 4:29 pm to JWill409
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They did a phenomenal job with Nick Marshall over there at Auburn. Really developed him, his knowledge of the position while he was there was breathtaking.
Why do you think they predominantly run spread offenses now in high school? Better yet, why do you think they started running that offense to begin with?
Because it's so easy a caveman can do it.
And yet, he's not a QB at the NFL level!!!
Posted on 9/16/15 at 4:33 pm to sjmabry
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Harris is being developed to run LSU's style of offense, which is more multiple than the spread shite you see with 95% of college teams.
Maybe we should simplify our offense (and include spread concepts to it like the pro teams do) so that a QB could learn it in 2-3 years instead of 4-5 or more years that it takes to learn the LSU offense.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 4:42 pm to boxcar willie
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How much does running a '3 yards and a cloud of dust' pro style offense really prepare a QB for the more modern day NFL offenses
It was a true sophomore making his 2nd career start,on the road, against a ranked opponent. Now I don't agree with the play calling from the 2nd half of last Sat but I understand why they did it.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 4:52 pm to White Tiger
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I, for one, do not believe that BH checked out of double digit pass plays into run defenses
So, you are calling Harris a liar? Harris plainly said he checked out of pass plays. What a sad excuse of a fan you have allowed yourself to become.
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LM has recruited not one good QB in his time here
You are an idiot too. Who do you think recruited Zack to LSU.
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will not happen on 9 of 13 for 71.
It already happened, Mr. Clueless, since we just won an SECW game with those exact numbers.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 5:00 pm to LSU Groupee
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You are an idiot too. Who do you think recruited Zack to LSU.
They think Mett was forced to attend lsu. It's like they either didn't know or that they've forgotten that Saban also offered Mett a scholly that year too and he chose Miles and lsu over saban.
This post was edited on 9/16/15 at 8:25 pm
Posted on 9/16/15 at 5:05 pm to boxcar willie
quote:
ow much does running a '3 yards and a cloud of dust' pro style offense really prepare a QB for the more modern day NFL offenses?
Jarvis Landry was quoted recently as saying that he had a steeper learning curve going from high school to LSU than from LSU to the NFL... and that's as a receiver. I imagine the transition would be even more pronounced at the quarterback position.
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