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Posted on 12/19/08 at 2:29 pm to Suntiger
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Pat Henry - LSU had one NC in track before Henry got here and had a few SEC championships. The program was in a slump when Pat was hired and he helped turn the tide. His success is hard to argue against, however the nod goes to Bertman because of his shere dominance in a weaker program at LSU.
Actually, LSU had three track NC's before Henry got here. Bernie Moore won an NC with the men in 1933, and Sam Seemes won two NC's (indoor and outdoor) in 1987 with the women.
Posted on 12/19/08 at 2:31 pm to Raymanz
Skip Bertman and Pat Henry. 
Posted on 12/19/08 at 2:35 pm to LSUfan4444
bertman
miles
saban
miles
saban
Posted on 12/19/08 at 2:55 pm to LSUfan4444
hal hunter
where is he now ? anyone know
where is he now ? anyone know
Posted on 12/19/08 at 3:01 pm to Ace Midnight
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Charles McClendon
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/thread
Oh wait. You're serious?
It's Skip Bertman.
Posted on 12/19/08 at 3:07 pm to Ace Midnight
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And Mac never ran off to chase some damn fool dream. He had his dream job: LSU.
Just look at this thread. No coach other than Skip has more good karma with LSU fans. Hell I would argue that Charlie Mac inspires MORE good feelings in the average LSU fan than Skip. (Because ADs tend to be bad guys to many.)
But yet, you are the only one to name him one of LSU's greatest, what does that tell you? When even homers aren't putting him up there? LSU ALWAYS had the resources to compete with Alabama, just as Florida always did. Both just needed a great coach to jump start the program. Charlie Mac was not it.
This post was edited on 12/19/08 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 12/19/08 at 3:39 pm to Tigercat
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But yet, you are the only one to name him one of LSU's greatest, what does that tell you?
Being right isn't always popular. Being popular, or in the consensus, isn't always right. But all of you Bertman fans (and I greatly respect what he did for LSU, particularly during the darkest time for our lifeblood, the football program) and Pat Henry fans (again, a standard of excellence that is difficult to imagine, to comprehend) ignore the fact that, ultimately, football is the only significant player in the athletic department at LSU. Football casts a huge shadow, literally and figuratively over the entire institution.
Football coaching is real coaching. Pat Henry was a great track coach, maybe the best ever, anywhere. Bertman was a great baseball manager, but, again baseball management is not really coaching. (Pitching coaches do coaching, as do the batting coaches).
But football is a war. It's one part athletics, and two parts combat. And Mac was our best coach, with all of the connotations that word carries with me, in the only sport that really matters at LSU.
Posted on 12/19/08 at 3:39 pm to Tigercat
for me it has to be Charles McClendon b/c he was the coach at LSU when I went to my 1st game
but to be truthfull it has to be skip or little nicky
but to be truthfull it has to be skip or little nicky
Posted on 12/19/08 at 3:41 pm to Tigercat
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. Both just needed a great coach to jump start the program. Charlie Mac was not it.
If Mac wasn't a great coach (and certainly opinions vary) then LSU has never had, and probably will never have a great football coach.
You realize that people were putting Arnsparger on this list, and not Mac. Explain the reasoning behind that?
Posted on 12/19/08 at 3:53 pm to Doc Fenton
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Patches O'Houlihan
Imagine what he could do with say, a Globo Gym type facility.
Posted on 12/19/08 at 3:53 pm to Raymanz
He was not a coach, but he brought in all the ones who turned LSU atheletics into prominence on a national basis. He brought in Arnsparger, Bertman, Henry, etc. LSU owes a lot to .....
BOB BROADHEAD
BOB BROADHEAD
This post was edited on 12/19/08 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 12/19/08 at 7:50 pm to Raymanz
Nick Saban. Not just for wining a NC, but for turning around a dog and having the vision to build a program and not just a good team (i.e. get the support to bring mediocre facilities to probably the best in the country).
Posted on 12/19/08 at 11:49 pm to Raymanz
bertman. 5 championships.
Posted on 12/19/08 at 11:54 pm to lsusportsman2
bertmans good and all..but hes the one who made saban leave lsu...i know this..i got inside info
Posted on 12/20/08 at 1:33 am to tigerland007
skip hands down
Posted on 12/20/08 at 2:33 am to Raymanz
Nick Saban
Skip Bertman
Skip Bertman
Posted on 12/20/08 at 3:11 am to Raymanz
As far as most are concerned, there are three big time sports at LSU (football, baseball, and basketball). Skip Bertman is the only man in any of the three to bring his program to the clear, dominant #1 in the sport.
While he's a grumpy old man IRL, he gets my vote.
Dale and Saban would be next, simply because I believe they were the best coaches to ever coach their respective sport.
While he's a grumpy old man IRL, he gets my vote.
Dale and Saban would be next, simply because I believe they were the best coaches to ever coach their respective sport.
Posted on 12/20/08 at 3:13 am to AlexLSU
Is this a real question?
think of lsu before saban.....a baseball school
think of lsu after saban....a football school
football does more than baseball
think of lsu before saban.....a baseball school
think of lsu after saban....a football school
football does more than baseball
Posted on 1/24/09 at 12:01 am to joe68
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hal hunter
where is he now ? anyone know
Coaching in the Pros.
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