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re: Basketball team meeting
Posted on 1/1/16 at 1:32 pm to Tiger Vision
Posted on 1/1/16 at 1:32 pm to Tiger Vision
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he has a good box score. The objective is to win games. How many games has he won?
Dumb.
I didn't know Simmons was out there by himself playing 1v5. And it's not like it's Simmons fault we are losing games. He's the only 1 you can't really blame for that. It's the other players that have been struggling, except maybe Hornsby. TQ was supposed to be our 2nd best player and a leader for this team and he's been bad and very lazy on both ends of the floor. He's actually been hurting us more than helping us lately. Blakeney can't seem to get anything to fall. Victor can't hit a FT. Still can't find a Center to give us quality minutes. Epps is up and down. Josh Gray does what he does. And CJJ still has his issues.
Simmons and Hornsby are the only ones you can count on each and every game. But sure, call him overrated and blame him for our struggles even though hes playing at an extremely high level and putting up ridiculous numbers.
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Posted on 1/1/16 at 1:35 pm to tigerbait3488
quote:tep but the coach is even worse and the reason the team sucks.
Basketball team meeting by tigerbait3488
Team sucks...move on
Posted on 1/1/16 at 1:45 pm to KG5989
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It's the other players that have been struggling,
Aside from the overriding issue with me of the lack of accountability which is on the coaches shoulders, needing other players we could reasonable have expected to contribute more is definitely I think something that needs to happen for this team to put its best foot forward.
For Simmons to be most effective, when he finds those open guys they need to hit some shots. I think there was an expectation guys like Blakeney and Sampson would fill that void and it just has not happened with the consistency needed.
Even if that comes around though the problems with effort and execution on defense will haunt us until there is accountability in that regard.
Posted on 1/1/16 at 1:55 pm to KG5989
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Victor can't hit a FT. Still can't find a Center to give us quality minutes
Ever since those first game gitters, Victor has been steadily improving. This past game he logged 19 pts, 8 rbs, and was 3/3 at the line in only (I think) his 4th game since becoming eligible. That first game is really hurting his overall average right now until he is able to play more. IMO, Victor and Hornsby are the only two players who give max effort every minute they are on the floor.
Posted on 1/1/16 at 1:55 pm to KG5989
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This post was edited on 1/1/16 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 1/1/16 at 2:50 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
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Victor and Hornsby are the only two players who give max effort every minute they are on the floor.
Measuring effort is not an exact science but it sure does seem that way to me as I watch as well.
And if that is the case, there are ways to deal with that, and to me dealing with that has too often been lacking.
Posted on 1/1/16 at 3:09 pm to KG5989
quote:No one doubts he is a good player. But he is still overrated. He has had more hype than any other player I can ever remember. At times he seems very uncertain as to what to do out there. Because he is the hyped super star he has gotten foul calls that others wouldn't. He also seems to have many more turnovers than the game stats actually credit him with. No outside shot, always finishes drives with his right hand which people are starting to figure out.
Last 3 games he's averaging 22.6ppg, 8.6rebs, 5assists, and is shooing 66% from the field... Very mortal.
He will get a lot more of those drives stuffed in the NBA. If he doesn't develop a jump shot, he will be a bench player. I also don't get why he plays with such a lack of emotion and doesn't demand the ball. Those numbers are good but a great player, which he still is, could have much better.
Posted on 1/1/16 at 4:07 pm to KG5989
Simmons is putting up some impressive numbers...but his mid-range jump shot is non-existent..he needs more than 7 or 8 shooting attempts in a game too
Quarterman must step up..CJJ got into his head...now backed off..gotta have him back mentally!
Blakeney needs to score more than 2 points against the step up in competition
Quarterman must step up..CJJ got into his head...now backed off..gotta have him back mentally!
Blakeney needs to score more than 2 points against the step up in competition
Posted on 1/1/16 at 4:50 pm to RBTiger
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Quarterman must step up..CJJ got into his head...now backed off..gotta have him back mentally!
Really need him to contribute more. I thought his first two years he was an effort and energy guy, even his frosh year when he struggled, it wasn't due to lack of effort.
He seems to have lost that a bit this year. Is it because he's losing minutes to some of the newbies? Has that discouraged him? I don't know.
I do worry from what I read into his quotes that he translates be more aggressive as shooting more 3's. I think that would be a mistake.
Posted on 1/1/16 at 5:47 pm to Tiger Ugly
The flat out truth is the team has no heart, there are a few like Hornsby and Simmons who go all out and the others have spurts. There is no nastiness, no one cares about rebounds, no secondary help on defense, gray becomes selfish most times, and Blakely and Sampson have not lived up to the shooting threats we all thought. It is definitely a lack of effort on rebounding and defensive side. CJJ will allow them to shoot whenever and where ever because that is his philosophy.
This post was edited on 1/1/16 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 1/1/16 at 5:49 pm to Pnels08
The guards are the biggest problem
Posted on 1/1/16 at 5:52 pm to FournetteForEver7
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The coaching is the biggest problem
FIFY. Keep getting them checks, Johnny.
Posted on 1/1/16 at 6:13 pm to c on z
"Hopefully they talked about Simmons being more aggressive and demanding the ball."
I'd be happy with this as long as it's in the paint in position to score or kick it out. He's useless standing on the perimeter in half court offense. Very seldom penetrates and dishes or takes it to the goal. He appears ready to get to the league in the quickest.....
I'd be happy with this as long as it's in the paint in position to score or kick it out. He's useless standing on the perimeter in half court offense. Very seldom penetrates and dishes or takes it to the goal. He appears ready to get to the league in the quickest.....
Posted on 1/1/16 at 6:18 pm to rilesrick
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Very seldom penetrates and dishes or takes it to the goal.
This at the beginning of the season ben would take off coast to coast and dunk the ball,but the other night he waited until about 2 minutes left in the game to attack the basket and he drew a foul.Im wondering why he stop attacking the basket even in the half court
Posted on 1/1/16 at 6:18 pm to rilesrick
But even when he kicks out for an open shot, he is the only one that tries to get a rebound!!!!
Posted on 1/1/16 at 8:30 pm to tjtiger9
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The flat out truth is the team has no heart,
Unfortunately, I'm beginning to think that may be the case. I keep waiting for me to show me differently, but....
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CJJ will allow them to shoot whenever and where ever because that is his philosophy.
I'm not sure that's entirely the case, I can't tell you how many times post game I've heard him say how the team settles for outside shots too early in the shot clock and I can remember several times he specifically spoke to JOB3 settling for jumpers when he should work the inside.
But therein lies my concerns. That he harps on it and it still continues points to an inconvenient truth it seems to me. And this is not only relegated to shot selection.
Posted on 1/1/16 at 8:57 pm to UNO
We just aren't very good. Won't be either.
Coach can tell them to do more boxing out, triple threat stances, offensive points and aggressive plays all he wants but it just can't be taught that way.
Next year we can cover 1:1 vs zone
Coach can tell them to do more boxing out, triple threat stances, offensive points and aggressive plays all he wants but it just can't be taught that way.
Next year we can cover 1:1 vs zone
Posted on 1/1/16 at 9:09 pm to Tiger Ugly
i'm afraid this meeting is pointless unless they decided to cut jones out of the decision making process altogether. the smart play is demote him to recruiting coordinator. of course that would only help for the future. 2016 is a lost cause.
Posted on 1/1/16 at 9:31 pm to Tiger Ugly
Come on man, how many damn team meetings do we need? All the basketball knowledge and experience that Assistant Coach Brendan Suhr (Detroit Pistons) has on the bench, CJJ needs to be picking his brain and implementing them in the team's defense and offense.
After all, this man was coached under the late Chuch Daley (Detroit Pistons), does that count for something? He knows about playing physical and coaching sets on offense and defense. I want to see CJJ succeed and make the NCAA Tournament in March. Damn! Maybe former Coach Dale Brown needs to consult with his pupil more often.
After all, this man was coached under the late Chuch Daley (Detroit Pistons), does that count for something? He knows about playing physical and coaching sets on offense and defense. I want to see CJJ succeed and make the NCAA Tournament in March. Damn! Maybe former Coach Dale Brown needs to consult with his pupil more often.
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