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re: Basketball 2010-11 is going to be one of the best of modern era
Posted on 1/17/10 at 10:14 pm to PiscesTiger
Posted on 1/17/10 at 10:14 pm to PiscesTiger
You think Brady would have equaled or surpassed what TJ did last year? Honestly?
why not. he already won two sec championships and why you think he couldnt have done it again is beyond me. by the way dale brown couldn't coach a lick, he only did something when he had rick huckaby and tex winters
Posted on 1/17/10 at 10:17 pm to cjf33
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dont hate trent i just think he is an arrogant yankee who has isolated people who loved lsu basketball, he wont even speak at the six man club
Are you SERIOUS? Did you not go to the alumni game last year? John Brady alienated every former coach and alumn that ever walked on LSU's campus? How did TJ isolate anyone? He has embraced the university's history. Not that this is a great example, but why do you see Dale at EVERY LSU game and you rarely saw him (but for a season or 2 of Brady's tenure)at all prior? How do Stanley Roberts and other MIA players just show up last year...for a charitable game?
And who cares if he's arrogant? You might mistake that for confidence. And who REALLY cares that he's a Yankee? Uh, last i checked, most succesful coaches - even in the SEC - are Yankees, John. Dale Brown was. Bruce Pearl and John Calipari are. Rick Pitino was. Why is that a problem for you that he was born above the Mason-Dixon line?
And I don't know what the Six Man Club is...how does one join? And is it a club that, like the Gridiron with Les, demands his presence? Correct me if I am wrong, but it sounds like a club started in someone's basement and is not affiliated with lSU or TAF or anyone in any way.
Do you want a new basketball arena? I do...whether it costs us or not. That's a great model to get recruits to come in droves. If Trent continues to recruit top 15 classes and wins 2 SEC west titles in 3 years, that is an excellent basis for getting what we need. I have fond memories of the PMAC - even before it was the pMAC and just the LSU Assembly Center. Nevertheless, it's just not an imposing or state of the art arena. We've spent millions on football and baseball and even softball. It's time we build a basketball arena that will lure in the best of the best. People always think lSU can NEVER be a basketball school. Look at Kansas State and over the last few years, Oregon. Neither of them were said to be such, either.
Posted on 1/17/10 at 10:22 pm to PiscesTiger
the six man club was a group who would go to the pmac and eat one hour before the game, i know brady came and talked 30 minutes before every game, there were about 100 people there. chico moore ran it.
Dale Brown organized that whole weekend, brady was invited but his team was playing. Someone needs to explain to me how a coach who went to the final four is not on the poster for the 100 year celebration, hate brady or not that was bullshite.
Dale Brown organized that whole weekend, brady was invited but his team was playing. Someone needs to explain to me how a coach who went to the final four is not on the poster for the 100 year celebration, hate brady or not that was bullshite.
This post was edited on 1/17/10 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 1/17/10 at 10:23 pm to cjf33
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why not. he already won two sec championships and why you think he couldnt have done it again is beyond me. by the way dale brown couldn't coach a lick, he only did something when he had rick huckaby and tex winters
2 SEC c'ships out of how many available chances? Hey, if Trent Johnson has a pct equivalent to John's, I will help his arse pack quicker than anyone. You don't see, other than D. Graham, any players bolting do you? And you don't see it at midseason, either.
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by the way dale brown couldn't coach a lick, he only did something when he had rick huckaby and tex winters
Man invents wheel. I never said Dale could masterfully coach. And if you wanna go more recently, a lot of his success came from the "brain trust" that was Ron Abernanthy, Craig Carse, and Johnny Jones. Dale, however, could recruit the hell out of players (legally or not) and was a father figure to many of them, John. Dale essentially did what Les Miles does now and that is steer the ship but rely on your wingmen to do the dirty work for you.
I will gladly remind you, next year, when we're 15-3 at this time, just how good we're about to be for the next 3-4 years. Hopefully, TJ doesn't leave us for a Big East or ACC school. WHy you think he CAN'T do the job is beyond me - much moreso than why you can't believe i do not think/know that JB wouldn't have done shite last year with that squad.
Posted on 1/17/10 at 10:24 pm to PiscesTiger
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Eddie Ludwig (at 6'9" and only about 215...the weight room beckons. he has a chance to become an unsung hero for LSU. He can spell Warren and White next season and still add offensive productivity)
you had me until ludwig...
Posted on 1/17/10 at 10:24 pm to cjf33
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chico moore ran it.
You're speaking as though it's now defunct. Why would a coach want to go talk to a group that doesn't exist?
Posted on 1/17/10 at 10:25 pm to Dupree4free
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you had me until ludwig...
Ok, forget him. Still like our chances?
Posted on 1/17/10 at 10:29 pm to PiscesTiger
im not sure if they are still doing the six man club or not.
Posted on 1/17/10 at 10:30 pm to cjf33
Ok, so why is TJ an a-hole for not speaking to a club you're not sure exists or not? 
Posted on 1/17/10 at 10:33 pm to PiscesTiger
I'll have whatever this NEGATIGER
is 
Posted on 1/17/10 at 10:34 pm to LSUBEATLES
Beatles, you really don't think TJ can get it done at LSU do you?
Posted on 1/17/10 at 10:40 pm to PiscesTiger
Let's see, you claim to have hit the baseball record on the head, and you missed the basketball record by a mile. Doesn't that make you about as reliable as flipping a coin?
You and MondayMorningMarch should become odds makers. Here is his billiant insight before the Xavier game... "We win Tuesday". You NEGATIGERS
are too much!! 
You and MondayMorningMarch should become odds makers. Here is his billiant insight before the Xavier game... "We win Tuesday". You NEGATIGERS
Posted on 1/17/10 at 10:44 pm to LSUBEATLES
I haven't missed anything yet, Bozo. I said this year's team would win 19 games. We've won 9. I suppose if Brady were coach, this would be just too easy to achieve. With Trent, impossible, eh?
Let it go Beatles. Brady is gone and thanfrickingfully, he won't ever be back...not even to guest captain any LSU sporting event.
Let it go Beatles. Brady is gone and thanfrickingfully, he won't ever be back...not even to guest captain any LSU sporting event.
Posted on 1/17/10 at 10:55 pm to PiscesTiger
All signs are that you will hit it on the head, again.
You are blowing off so many ridiculous comments about the past and present that it is not even worth responding to. I will never let it go when it comes to NEGATIGERS
. But, it is hilarious watching you trash Brady for the same things you are drooling over TJ about. P.S. for the record, I have not commented on TJ.
Posted on 1/17/10 at 11:13 pm to PiscesTiger
quote:How can you say that Brady would not have won with last year's team when he had already coached 2 SEC title teams in a seven year span and had Sweet 16 and Final Four appearances.
Trent Johnson inherited a John Brady team that was very talented last season. No doubt that TJ won with JB's players. The funny part is that Brady wouldn't have. Brady apologists like Bad Cat, xiv, tiger20, and Beatles will tell you that we made a mistake and ran off a coach of destiny.
I have gone on record numerous times that it was in the best interest of Brady and LSU to part ways.
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Trent Johnson will consistently bring in top 15 recruiting classes and will recruit the right player. He's not going to recruit Jaime Lloreda/Shawnson Johnson-types who Brady knew he wouldn't be able to contain.
You ever stop to think that Brady and LSU were in no position to be very selective and had to take some chances after going through 4 losing seasons at the end of Brown's tenure and 2 more under Brady before the NCAA sanctions were levied. Lloreda was a very good player for two seasons until injuries ended his season. There was far more positive than negative about his LSU career.
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This season is a product of Brady's inability to recruit consistently well and one of the thinnest benches in LSU history.
WRONG! TJ has had two recruiting seasons to fill in the roster and has little to show for it on this year's roster. Dotson and Ludwig will probably become good player with time. The lack of quality depth falls squarely on Trent Johnson and his recruiting philosophy. It may be ultimately successful, but the jury is still out.
Brady had signed Jmison Morgan and had commitments from Tommy Mason Griffin and Brandon Mitchell, all of whom backed out when Johnson was hired. In addition Brady and Pierre had recruiting contacts and no doubt would have added other good players to the team.
Finally, it cannot be ignored that even after 6 straight losing seasons and NCAA probation looming at the same stage in his tenure as Johnson is now Brady ahd signed Stromile Swift, Jabari Smith, Lamont Roland, Brian Beshara, Torris Bright, Jermaine Williams, Marques Ledoux, Ronald Dupree, collis Temple III, Brad Bridgewater, Omar Seli Mance , Darrel Cooper, Wille Anderson, Cedric Carter, Dejuan Collins and Chico Potts.
Posted on 1/18/10 at 12:08 am to PiscesTiger
i agree with a lot of what you say. while i think next year's team can be special and obviously more successful than this year's, i still think our year will be 2011-2012. starting next year, turner, strigner, derenbecker all are three guys who can shoot it. this team obviously needs the most help offensively and that's where they'll be getting it. malcolm will give us a boost on the block and in the paint defensively and it was nice to see harris active defensively last night with a couple of blocks. while the score doesnt show it i think last night was the best game all season in terms of the guys getting their hand on ball and forcing bad passes, still cant be giving teams like florida that many wide open looks, this team, challenged as they are offensively needs to play their best defense every posession.
Posted on 1/18/10 at 1:14 am to S
I think it's funny that Beatles calls me a NEGAtiger when here I am supporting the team and not looking at the past.
John Brady was a cancer at LSU. Just because he went to a Final 4 doesn't mean that he was good for the program. Dana Kirk at Memphis State anyone? Billy Tubbs at OU? Eddie Sutton at UK? Nolan Richardson at Arky? Jim Harrick at UCLA? And the funny thing is, these coaches will go down as far greater than Brady. Success has a price and for Brady, it was fielding one good team every 4 years and then losing at least 2 players per year due to attrition.
Now, I know Brady took over some of the worst conditions possible. He was, however, a cheap hire by a cheap AD and even though John Wooden himself wouldn't have won in his first 2 years in that job, other coaches would have built something permanent. Why do you think Kentucky didn't knock on Brady's door...why Arkansas State?
Beatles and others need to live in the PRESENT and stop trying to make sense out of Brady.
John Brady was a cancer at LSU. Just because he went to a Final 4 doesn't mean that he was good for the program. Dana Kirk at Memphis State anyone? Billy Tubbs at OU? Eddie Sutton at UK? Nolan Richardson at Arky? Jim Harrick at UCLA? And the funny thing is, these coaches will go down as far greater than Brady. Success has a price and for Brady, it was fielding one good team every 4 years and then losing at least 2 players per year due to attrition.
Now, I know Brady took over some of the worst conditions possible. He was, however, a cheap hire by a cheap AD and even though John Wooden himself wouldn't have won in his first 2 years in that job, other coaches would have built something permanent. Why do you think Kentucky didn't knock on Brady's door...why Arkansas State?
Beatles and others need to live in the PRESENT and stop trying to make sense out of Brady.
Posted on 1/18/10 at 1:18 am to S
S, I think we'll be better that year also, but I had to give these negative goons something to hang their hat on now. I hope White stays around for 2 years and I think Storm is here to stay for 4 years. Things are looking bright.
Posted on 1/18/10 at 1:28 am to PiscesTiger
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I think it's funny that Beatles calls me a NEGAtiger when here I am supporting the team and not looking at the past.
Don't let that Negabitch
Pisces, I like your enthusiasm and I wish the team great success in the future!
This post was edited on 1/18/10 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 1/18/10 at 1:56 am to MondayMorningMarch
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