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Baseball Question: The MLB Draft vs NIL
Posted on 5/8/22 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 5/8/22 at 1:38 pm
Ok Berry is most likely a first rounder , a top 15 pick? Just curious, how much money will he sign for if he went to mlb? Can anyone give an educated guess on bonus money(slot value potential) he could get to sign? Could NIL change a kid's mind if the money wasnt such a big chunk(higher 7 figures) to where NIL could match or closely match the money for the kid to stay another year?
Maybe not for Berry but what if a kid like Doughty could be drafted but lets say could get 500k to sign....could NIL make him stay by matching that offer at lsu and change the whole "he gone to mlb" as soon as eligible for mlb? I mean it wouldn't matter if a kid signed after Sr year because he already got the NIL money to stay another year. Now, less of course a player would sign for multiple millions very Hugh in draft, NIL can change alot of players minds in baseball to stay and try for Omaha for another year.
I find this interesting.
Maybe not for Berry but what if a kid like Doughty could be drafted but lets say could get 500k to sign....could NIL make him stay by matching that offer at lsu and change the whole "he gone to mlb" as soon as eligible for mlb? I mean it wouldn't matter if a kid signed after Sr year because he already got the NIL money to stay another year. Now, less of course a player would sign for multiple millions very Hugh in draft, NIL can change alot of players minds in baseball to stay and try for Omaha for another year.
I find this interesting.
This post was edited on 5/8/22 at 1:46 pm
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 1:45 pm to Required
I don’t think it will change anything for players already in college. Players want to get their pro careers started. The year you get drafted, you only get to play in handful of games. If you stay four years in college, you’re first full year of pro ball, many would already be 23. That is frowned upon in professional baseball. This came directly from an advisor/agent of a player drafted inside the Top 10 rounds a year ago.
This post was edited on 5/8/22 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 5/8/22 at 1:47 pm to Required
Berry will get about 2.5 - 3.5 million dollars around that slot. He’s also a draft eligible sophomore so he’ll have even more leverage to get the money he wants.
Would you turn that down to take 500k and delay your professional career?
Would you turn that down to take 500k and delay your professional career?
Posted on 5/8/22 at 1:50 pm to Required
Butterfingers is working on an NIL deal with Thompson
Posted on 5/8/22 at 1:50 pm to Required
Doughty is projected to be a late first round pick. The slot value is between 2.5-3.5 mil. NIL still can’t touch first round money.
Slot value for 500k is mid 4th round. I still think most people would take 500k in pro money over 500k in NIL money.
Slot value for 500k is mid 4th round. I still think most people would take 500k in pro money over 500k in NIL money.
Posted on 5/8/22 at 1:50 pm to Required
It’s not going to keep guys from leaving college early. After your junior year you lose all leverage you have. I do think it could help sway guys to come to college rather than going pro straight out of high school though.
Posted on 5/8/22 at 1:53 pm to Tigerfan1274
quote:I get it and totally understand but 99 percent don't make it to the majors anyways. Unless your coming out of college and project as a major leaguer, then I still say NIL could change a few players minds that cjj would like to keep another year. A ball sucks tbh. Most players never leave a,aa ball.
don’t think it will change anything for players already in college. Players want to get their pro careers started. The year you get drafted, you only get to play in handful of games. If you stay four years in college, you’re first full year of pro ball, many would already be 23. That is frowned upon in professional baseball. This came directly from an advisor/agent of a player drafted inside the Top 10 rounds a year ago.
Posted on 5/8/22 at 1:55 pm to Adam4848
quote:these are the exceptions I'm referring to. Of course not but a player who won't be drafted first, 2nd or 3rd rounds...NIL comes in a matches the money. Some players leave for the draft in a lower round,never leave a ball when they coulda played another year lsu. Lsu could greatly benefit from NIL
Berry will get about 2.5 - 3.5 million
This post was edited on 5/8/22 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 5/8/22 at 2:02 pm to Required
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these are the exceptions I'm referring to. Of course not but a player who won't be drafted first, 2nd or 3rd rounds...NIL comes in a matches the money. Some players leave for the draft in a lower round,never leave a ball when they coulda played another year lsu. Lsu could greatly benefit from NIL
Correct
Berry is not the best example as he’s been a projected first rounder for a year now.
Posted on 5/8/22 at 2:02 pm to Required
Let's say a kid who lsu knows could benefit by having that said player for another year and he is a 4th rounder or lower. I think NIL could jump in and pay the kid 500/600k(match the slot value to the round) to keep him. Playing at lsu is worth more than 5/6 years of A ball with hardly anyone in the stands and especially when the percentages says you'll never play in the big especially since you were a 4th round or lower draft pick.
This post was edited on 5/8/22 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 5/8/22 at 2:04 pm to Adam4848
quote:got ya. I was just curious about the money he could get. He wouldn't be a good example of course your right but I looked default slots and 4th round or lower , NIL can definitely convince a player to stay if it was determine that lsu and that player can benefit by another year at lsu
Correct
Berry is not the best example as he’s been a projected first rounder for a year now.
Posted on 5/8/22 at 2:46 pm to Required
If a guy gets offered $500k in NIL money to come back for his senior year vs $500k to go pro you go pro. Your SR year you will lose leverage and likely get offered less money on your pro contract unless you drastically up your stock after your SR year which most dont. You have to live with your pro contract for multiple years, NIL will be one year.
Posted on 5/8/22 at 2:54 pm to Yeti_Chaser
quote:no you wont cause you already got 500k in NIL and you go play the following year in the league. What ever mlb offers is not important beings you got the money anyway and you can still go try to play for a sec title or better. If I had to choose between lsu or an A ball club and I got paid still, I'd choose a program like lsu all day if the lower draft order facilitated my decision.
Your SR year you will lose leverage
This post was edited on 5/8/22 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 5/8/22 at 3:17 pm to Required
After your SR year you may very well get offered a 5 digit contract when you don't have the leverage of coming back another year. Sure you already made $500k in college (unlikely) but now you have to live on that smaller contract for the next 3-5 years just so you could spend a year in the SEC rather than A ball. Just sign on the larger contract your junior year or your risk losing money over the next 5 years
Posted on 5/8/22 at 3:20 pm to Yeti_Chaser
I was just basically basing it on equaling the bonus money and a kid's college degree to fall back on when 98 percent of the time your only gonna spend 5/6 yrs average in minor ball. I mean minimum per diem daily and basic housing is fine with me to play some more meaningless single A ball.
This post was edited on 5/8/22 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 5/8/22 at 3:33 pm to Required
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Unless your coming out of college and project as a major leaguer,
This is very hard to project. Guys that aren’t projected as major league prospects and drafted just to fill out a minor league roster aren’t getting drafted high to begin with. If a guy is drafted in the 4th round as you mentioned in your example, the club that drafted him thinks he has chance to be a big leaguer and will treat him as such.
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