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re: As an outside observer
Posted on 1/23/17 at 2:03 pm to NOLApurpleandgold
Posted on 1/23/17 at 2:03 pm to NOLApurpleandgold
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You are a liar.
I have been a lsu fan since birth. I will never root against lsu. Just because i dont think Ed Orgeron is qualified to be a HC at one of the premier programs in cfb(and every AD except alleva agrees with me) doesnt mean i dont want him to be successful.
Im sorry that the facts im posting dont fit your opinion.
I was a lsu fan long before ed orgeron ever mocked lsu and ill be a fan long after he is gone.
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 2:08 pm
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 2:22 pm to lsufan31
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No one wanted our job. That's a fact.
No its not. We went after 2 coaches then gave the job to ed orgeron.
Link me to coaches turning down lsu besides these 2.
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but you keep on keeping on. It fits your narrativ
Holy shite. There are literally dozens of HCs and coordinators that are more qualified than a coach that has never ran a successful offense, defense, or program.
You thinking the that the list of qualified coaches is Herman/jimbo and then a career dline coach lets me know your knowledge of cfb.
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You are one of those people who think just because its LSU that anyone would be happy to take the job.
Yeah im one of those people that would like lsu's head coach to have had even a little success running a defense,offense,or program. Yeah i have such high standards.
Id rather hired Dave Aranda than Ed Orgeron. Dave aranda has actually been a successful defensive coordinator. Ed orgeron hasnt. No aranda hasnt been a hc but he has a better resume than ed orgeron.
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Clearly its not as prestigious of a job as you would like to think.
Holy shite.
Link me to all these coaches that said no. Youre just saying no one wanted the job so you can justify the hiring of a 55 year old career dline coach that has never ran a successful offense, defense , or program.
Our Ad offered the 2 most obvious candidates and then offered Ed Orgeron the job. Thats what happened.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 2:38 pm to Rickdaddy4188
I think you have to view his short time at USC as a success. The fact that two of the biggest programs (USC and LSU) trusted him as interim should tell you something about how his players, coaches, and superiors feel about his ability to lead.
Also, despite losing at home to an inferior but motivated Florida team, his team ran a more diverse offense than what we have seen in a while. LSU crushed Arkansas, Ole Miss, Texas am, and Louisville. It has been a while since those teams in the West were looking up at LSU.
Also, despite losing at home to an inferior but motivated Florida team, his team ran a more diverse offense than what we have seen in a while. LSU crushed Arkansas, Ole Miss, Texas am, and Louisville. It has been a while since those teams in the West were looking up at LSU.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 4:30 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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bullshite.
Yeah Ed Orgeron was turning down sec dc position to be lsu's dline coach.
State was offering in the ballpark of 900k when reported. He was already making 850k at LSU. And maybe just maybe he saw the writing on the wall for Miles and thought he had a shot at the HC job. Seems like he got the better end of that deal, wouldn't you say? And no one denied that Orgeron met w Mullen. It was just disputed if he was extended a formal offer, but very rarely does the side who is turned down admit an offer was formally extended.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 5:39 pm to lwest41
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I think you have to view his short time at USC as a success.
He didnt choose the coordinators.
He didnt choose the schemes.
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The fact that two of the biggest programs (USC and LSU) trusted him as interim should tell you something about how his players, coaches, and superiors feel about his ability to lead.
USC's oc and dc were in their 1st year
LSU's dc was in his 1st year.
If his ability to lead is so well known why hasnt he gotten any job offers above dline coach.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 5:43 pm to lsufball19
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State was offering in the ballpark of 900k when reported. He was already making 850k at LSU
Link.
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And maybe just maybe he saw the writing on the wall for Miles and thought he had a shot at the HC job.
Holy shite.
He only had a shot because our Ad is a joke.
Ed orgeron wouldnt get interviewed at vandy or kentucky and yet youre ok woth him running lsu.
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was just disputed if he was extended a formal offer, but very rarely does the side who is turned down admit an offer was formally extended.
Miss st did not offer him shite. My god.
The fact remains that he is the most unqualified hire in big 6 history. Be proud of that and try to explain it away if you want.
Answer this...
Would Ed orgeron ever get interviewed for Bama's job?
Would ed orgeron even get DC job offers at bama,Michigan,or ohio state?
If your answer is no then why the hell are you so giddy about him being lsu's head coach. .
Like i said, its telling that other sec fans are happy about lsu hiring a 55 year old career dline coach.
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 1/23/17 at 5:51 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Link
Google it
Posted on 1/23/17 at 6:26 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Rick, can you explain what you mean by "big 6 history". Must be something important that I am unaware of because you use it frequently. tia
Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:13 pm to lsufball19
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Google it
I did and nothing mentioned any sum of money and the 1st link was saying it was utter bullshite and Orgeron probably used it for leverage.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:18 pm to SW Fla Tiger
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Rick, can you explain what you mean by "big 6 history". Must be something important that I am unaware of because you use it frequently. tia
There is a group in sec football that most people call,"The Big 6".
bama,lsu,uga,tenn,auburn,florida
These 6 programs have won every sec title,but one(1976),since 1963.
Ole miss has 6 sec titles but their last one was in 1963.
Miss. St has 1 in 1941 ( yes the same year bama somehow claims a national title)
Kentucky has 2 and the last was in 1976.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:25 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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I did and nothing mentioned any sum of money and the 1st link was saying it was utter bullshite and Orgeron probably used it for leverage.
So you clicked on one link, found what you wanted to hear to support your conclusion, and stopped there. The fact you don't remember when this all went on doesn't really lend much to your credibility in this argument. Just saying
Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:39 pm to lsufball19
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o you clicked on one link, found what you wanted to hear to support your conclusion, and stopped ther
The 1st link called bullshite.
No i kept reading. There was zero links with any amount of money and zero links backing up Orgeron's or your claim.
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The fact you don't remember when this all went on doesn't really lend much to your credibility in this argument. Just saying
Says the guy that actually believes ed orgeron was turning down DC job offers to continue being a dline coach. That is what's laughable. He wasnt offered shite by miss. st.
And your assertion that people dont admit to being turned down is dumb. Lsu admitted to it twice this year.
Find one link saying he was offered any amount.
I didn't remember ed orgeron being offered the ms st dc job because he was never offered the dc position.
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 1/23/17 at 8:00 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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There was zero links with any amount of money and zero links backing up Orgeron's or your claim.
there's an advocate article on it. Try harderquote:
I didn't remember ed orgeron being offered the ms st dc job because he was never offered the dc position.
You acted like I pulled it from left field. It's ok to admit you forgot about something. Your arguments concerning Orgeron are ignorant either way, but keep fighting the good fight kid
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 1/24/17 at 9:05 am to Rickdaddy4188
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bullshite. He wouldnt get DC offers anywhere. My god. Please enlighten me why he would choose to be a dline coach over being a DC. Thats absurd
Because he thought he would get an inside track at the LSU HC job. Which he obviously did.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:43 am to MullenBoys
quote:My concerns about that, although it was still "interim":
. The difference as I see it is simple. Orgeron will no doubt keep his hands on the defensive side but will stat out of the offensive side except for big decisions at crucial points in a game.
Defense is currently the stable side of the ball. Aranda is the returning coordinator, and thought well enough of to be named co-head coach, despite being young and new to this program. If he's as good as implied, then Orgeron needs to stay out of his way except at the broadest levels.
As for staying out of the offense except at crucial points of the game: look at the Florida game. 1 play, at the 1 yd line, to win or lose. Orgeron wasn't in the huddle during the timeout, and the players weren't in synch- Guice, the absolute key player, ran the wrong play.
This is an example of O being TOO detached.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 11:29 pm to MullenBoys
Very prescient observations on your part.
You should consider a career as a college level Athletic Director.
You should consider a career as a college level Athletic Director.
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