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Are BIG and PAC12 schools allowing students on campus?
Posted on 8/11/20 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 8/11/20 at 5:07 pm
If so, this whole thing about cancelling the football season because of health concerns is pure bull. Do they not care about the thousands of students who are much more vulnerable than 100 football players who are in a controlled environment? If I were the parent of a student on campus, I would question the university's decision to shut down the football program because they think it's too dangerous while opening dorms and dining halls for other students.
Posted on 8/11/20 at 5:19 pm to BillF
TR a month ago: "If they can play football, they can have students on campus. All about money."
TR today: "If they can have students on campus, they can play football. All about money."
TR today: "If they can have students on campus, they can play football. All about money."
Posted on 8/11/20 at 5:20 pm to BillF
quote:The idea that, outside the ops building, the football players are in any kind of controlled environment is laughable.
Do they not care about the thousands of students who are much more vulnerable than 100 football players who are in a controlled environment?
This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 8/11/20 at 5:24 pm to Gravitiger
quote:
TR a month ago: "If they can play football, they can have students on campus. All about money."
TR today: "If they can have students on campus, they can play football. All about money."
Both are true bruh
Posted on 8/11/20 at 5:26 pm to Who_Dat_Tiger
How so? The first makes sense. The second is just circular logic.
"If we can set up classrooms to keep people 6 feet apart while wearing masks, we can have a bunch of morbidly obese people rub up on each other for several hours a day."
Basically letting the perfect (protecting everyone at all costs) be the enemy of the good (protecting many people to the extent we can).
"If we can set up classrooms to keep people 6 feet apart while wearing masks, we can have a bunch of morbidly obese people rub up on each other for several hours a day."
Basically letting the perfect (protecting everyone at all costs) be the enemy of the good (protecting many people to the extent we can).
This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 8/11/20 at 5:28 pm to Gravitiger
You obviously never played college football. Other than attending class, we didn't have much free time before curfew Sunday through Friday. If they want to sacrifice a little bit more than we did, they're much safer than the general population.
Posted on 8/11/20 at 5:32 pm to BillF
I know the entire Cal State system is virtual for the fall semester. Only Mountain West Schools there [Fresno State and San Diego State] and that conference already threw in the towel.
As for the UC System [UCLA and UC Berkeley - CAL], CAL has opted to go entirely virtual. LINK /
UCLA is offering 8% of its classes in person. LINK
University of Washington is doing 80% of its classes virtually. LINK /
WSU is doing a "hyflex" approach
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Oregon State is having no in-person meetings amongst students and staff
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University of Oregon is planning for a responsible and safe return to in-person instruction
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USC seems to be all online
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Stanford is doing a hybrid
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Arizona State appears to be opening
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Sounds the same for University of Arizona
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Utah has a hybrid
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Colorado seems mostly open
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As for the UC System [UCLA and UC Berkeley - CAL], CAL has opted to go entirely virtual. LINK /
UCLA is offering 8% of its classes in person. LINK
University of Washington is doing 80% of its classes virtually. LINK /
WSU is doing a "hyflex" approach
LINK /
Oregon State is having no in-person meetings amongst students and staff
LINK
University of Oregon is planning for a responsible and safe return to in-person instruction
LINK /
USC seems to be all online
LINK
Stanford is doing a hybrid
LINK
Arizona State appears to be opening
LINK
Sounds the same for University of Arizona
LINK /
Utah has a hybrid
LINK /
Colorado seems mostly open
LINK
Posted on 8/11/20 at 6:00 pm to BillF
quote:No, I didn't. You obviously haven't played recently if you think curfew is still an enforceable thing with college football players, except Friday nights in their hotel rooms.
You obviously never played college football. Other than attending class, we didn't have much free time before curfew Sunday through Friday. If they want to sacrifice a little bit more than we did, they're much safer than the general population.
Also the whole "attending class" thing means they aren't in "controlled environments." Having "free time" is very different from being in a "controlled environment" when it comes to respiratory viruses.
The only way CFB works this year is to keep them in an NBA-like bubble. Nothing like your experience where you "didn't have much free time before curfew."
This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 8/11/20 at 6:23 pm to Gravitiger
I never said the players were in a controlled environment when they were away from the football facilities. Maybe that's why you went back and edited your original post when the down votes started to hit you.
I also never said that football players are subject to curfews today like we were in the old athletic dorm. I merely used it as an example that athletes don't have the same amount of free time as other students, and they're much safer than other students if they're willing to make wise choices with that free time.
Apparently a majority of their classes can be taken online, and they're subject to virus testing and protocols that other students are not. Never said they were in a controlled environment away from the football facilities. Maybe you misunderstood.
I also never said that football players are subject to curfews today like we were in the old athletic dorm. I merely used it as an example that athletes don't have the same amount of free time as other students, and they're much safer than other students if they're willing to make wise choices with that free time.
Apparently a majority of their classes can be taken online, and they're subject to virus testing and protocols that other students are not. Never said they were in a controlled environment away from the football facilities. Maybe you misunderstood.
Posted on 8/11/20 at 6:26 pm to BillF
quote:I did say they weren't in a controlled environment away from the football facilities. You responded with some type of disagreement. Maybe you misunderstood.
Never said they were in a controlled environment away from the football facilities. Maybe you misunderstood.
My OP was edited at 5:24. Your first response was 5:26.
This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 8/11/20 at 6:26 pm to Gravitiger
Gotta admit, you're one editing little fella when it comes to posting
Posted on 8/11/20 at 6:29 pm to Gravitiger
Having "free time" is very different from being in a "controlled environment" when it comes to respiratory viruses.
Except this is a vascular virus. That is what's freaking out the decision-makers. They don't know the full scope of what COVID-19 is even eight months after it hit the US.
A 27 year old basketball player "recovers" from the virus only to have [as a side effect] an enlarged heart. He subsequently dies from a heart attack playing basketball after recovery. Five other Big 10 Football players who've recovered have the same diagnosis with their hearts. This is NOT the sniffles.
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Except this is a vascular virus. That is what's freaking out the decision-makers. They don't know the full scope of what COVID-19 is even eight months after it hit the US.
A 27 year old basketball player "recovers" from the virus only to have [as a side effect] an enlarged heart. He subsequently dies from a heart attack playing basketball after recovery. Five other Big 10 Football players who've recovered have the same diagnosis with their hearts. This is NOT the sniffles.
LINK
This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 6:34 pm
Posted on 8/11/20 at 6:29 pm to BillF
quote:My first response was last edited at 5:24. Your first response to it was posted at 5:26.
Gotta admit, you're one editing little fella when it comes to posting
My bad: You responded at 5:28. Just wanted to acknowledge.
This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 8/11/20 at 6:32 pm to Gravitiger
Sorry I'm a slow typist. I'll try to do better.
Posted on 8/11/20 at 6:35 pm to BillF
Or you could just acknowledge that your first post about "free time" and "curfew" was not a legitimate response to my point.
Posted on 8/11/20 at 6:41 pm to Woodman
quote:Just so we're clear, are you saying colleges should or shouldn't let students on campus? Should or shouldn't play football? Is either one logically dependent on the other, health wise?
Except this is a vascular virus. That is what's freaking out the decision-makers. They don't know the full scope of what COVID-19 is even eight months after it hit the US.
A 27 year old basketball player "recovers" from the virus only to have [as a side effect] an enlarged heart. He subsequently dies from a heart attack playing basketball after recovery. Five other Big 10 Football players who've recovered have the same diagnosis with their hearts. This is NOT the sniffles.
Posted on 8/11/20 at 6:42 pm to Gravitiger
Or y’all could just kiss.
Posted on 8/11/20 at 6:47 pm to Gravitiger
At this point, I'm not even sure what your point was or if I directly addressed it accordingly. And I'm not too concerned either way. You really need to keep minor things from getting under your skin so easily. It's a sports message board. That's all.
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