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re: Aranda needs help improving LSU's defense, just like Orgeron provided help for LSU's OC

Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:33 pm to
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:33 pm to
We don’t have a bunch of first round talent on defense that’s the entire point. We have a couple of secondary guys, one is a freshman and that’s it. No front 7 players are going in the first round. And no a coordinator doesn’t decide who starts, head coaches are in charge of all personnel. This fantasy that coordinators override head coaches on who plays began here on the Rant and was invented to protect Les Miles back in the day but it is 100% fantasy. Coordinators call the games and have large input on gameplans they don’t decide who plays and who doesn’t.
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 10:35 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:48 pm to
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And no a coordinator doesn’t decide who starts, head coaches are in charge of all personnel



Wrong
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47960 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:49 pm to
Lmfao of course your opinion is the antithesis of reality
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 10:50 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:51 pm to
You don’t know what position coaches & coordinators do, do you
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:52 pm to
The problem is I know first hand exactly what they do but you obviously have no clue.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:55 pm to
No matter what kind of silly and petty little insults you have prepared no coordinator tells his head coach who is playing. The head coach makes those decisions period. Now there are the rare examples like Steve Spurrier who don’t fool with defense at all that allow their DC to do what he wants but those are far and few between and it’s theur decision to do it not the coordinators. Ed Orgeron does not do that with any of the 3 phases on his team.
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 10:56 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:56 pm to
No, you definitely don’t

If you think The HC has the time to micromanage who is in the game or not at all times, then you are a fool

The WR substitutions are night & day from last year. Care to guess why?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47960 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:57 pm to
Lol of course you’d make a straw man because that isn’t at all what I said. Lol nice try but another fail.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:59 pm to
And you have no answer, how fitting

My friend played RB at LSU. Guess who decided who went into the game?

*gasp* frank Wilson

You’re clueless. Just shut the frick up already with your bad information
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47960 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:01 pm to
Lmfao answer to what your strawman argument? Lol I never said anything about subs during a game I said the Head Coach decides who starts and who plays. Once again you have no argument so you make shite up that’s totally off topic.
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 11:02 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:02 pm to
And no your friend didn’t play at LSU and like always you have no idea how anything on the sidelines or in the booth works. fricking loser.
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 11:03 pm
Posted by KC Tiger
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:17 pm to
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We don’t have a bunch of first round talent on defense that’s the entire point.


IF that is the case a good coach schemes around it. Maybe you need to re-read my post if you didn't understand that.

quote:

Coordinators call the games and have large input on gameplans they don’t decide who plays and who doesn’t


You literally couldn't get any dumber if somebody cut your head off.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47960 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:19 pm to
Lol clearly you have no clue what you’re talking about. It doesn’t matter what scheme you use if you don’t have the players to win one on one battles up front your hands are tied. If you don’t understand that there is no hope for you understanding football. About the coaching decisions you’re just willfully ignorant if you think Ed Orgeron allows somebody els to set his depth chart for him.
Posted by KC Tiger
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:20 pm to
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Lol clearly you have no clue what you’re talking about. It doesn’t matter what scheme you use if you don’t have the players to win one on one battles up front your hands are tied. If you don’t understand that there is no hope for you understanding football. About the coaching decisions you’re just willfully ignorant if you think Ed Orgeron allows somebody els to set his depth chart for him.


I stand corrected.....you can get dumber.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47960 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:22 pm to
You’re clearly a football savant and have discovered a revolutionary way to play defense without defensive talent. I hope to see your application to the program announced in the near future lol.
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 11:23 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47960 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:29 pm to
The defense gives up 18.8ppg the offense scores 52.5ppg, how will we ever win another game? Last years Alabama defense gave up 18.1ppg and they were in the title game so put the razor blades away and quit screaming about the DC when you have no idea how defense works or how a team is run.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:32 pm to
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Coordinators call the games and have large input on gameplans they don’t decide who plays and who doesn’t.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47960 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:35 pm to
It’s stunning how ignorant some of you are and even more stunning how pompous about being ignorant you are. But the pomposity does kind’ve prove the ignorance, it’s an overreaction to disguise the doubt you have about what you’re saying.
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 11:36 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:38 pm to
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It’s stunning how ignorant some of you are


What you said is the most ridiciculously retarded thing I've read here in weeks

I mean that's cringeworthy
Coordinators have no input on personnel
Posted by Todd O'Connor
MIke Ditka's Restaurant Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:38 pm to
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If true? Then it would appear that every DC would need more help in solving this puzzle. The football program who does will dominate college football.


The riddle isn't hard

Recruit lots of elite linemen .

End of story

Alabama, Clemson, Miss State Laste year, every good Ohio State Defense,

Loaded with big time 1st round DL.

Since Aranda has been at LSU he has had 2 DL drafed. 1 in teh 3rd and 1 in teh 5ht

Alabama has had 3 first rounders, and 7 total DL taken
Clemson had 3 first round DL and a 4th
Miss State had 2 first rounders on their defense last year.

Elite defenses can get after a QB with their front 4. Chaisson can somtiems do that, but no one else can consistently. We didn't recruit well prior to 2016, and the last few classes have not produced the caliber of platers we need

we are used to this emparasment of riches at LSU, but our DL is not where close to where it used to be. in 2007 we had 2 top 10 picks on the DL.

IN 2003 we had a 1st, 2nd and a SEC Defensive player of the year on the DL

in 2011 we had 2 first round picks, a 3 and a 4th, and several backups got drafted too.


This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 11:42 pm
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