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re: Appy State FCS (1AA) Championship Ring...

Posted on 7/7/08 at 8:16 pm to
Posted by NorfolkVATiger
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Posted on 7/7/08 at 8:16 pm to
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figured as much...I was just wondering why the hell was 3 crystal footballs symbolizing your 3 titles were used


Good catch....I didn't even think about that.

If you notice in fine print at the bottom it says "ver 13". That's why I asked if this was the final ring or just an artist's rendering. Mebbe the artist had one eye on Les Miles hoisting the crystal football when he designed this ring?
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 7/7/08 at 8:16 pm to
From the sounds of the fans, as long was they keep it within 3 TDs, they really won the game.
Posted by phillyAPP
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Posted on 7/7/08 at 8:18 pm to
Thanks

We are a growth in progress with depth and speed getting better every year. APP will have a few surprises that LSU can't plan for.

App has changed its gameplan every game the last 3 years.

This game will be fun for APP fans because we know that we aren't extpected to keep it close.


What will Tiger fans do if it is close?

Sit on their hands ?

We are proud and will play hard til the end no matter what the score. That I KNOW FOR A FACT.


Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 7/7/08 at 8:22 pm to
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What will Tiger fans do if it is close?


Crank it up.

You'll probably get the true TS experience for your first offensive drive...no promises after that.

But if you are hanging in the fourth, we will rank it up.

See Ole Miss: We expected a blowout, but in the fourth when we needed the come from behind in 06, we didn't sit on our hands and fret, we yelled like it was Auburn or Florida we were playing.

To the point that Ole Miss had to burn 3 timeouts on consecuative plays on a crucial end game drive just because they were so disorganized from noise.

I wonder sometimes if we would have lost that game if they weren't driving into the student section....
This post was edited on 7/7/08 at 8:29 pm
Posted by NorfolkVATiger
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Posted on 7/7/08 at 8:26 pm to
Philly,

As I've said in a couple of other posts, I think this is a bad matchup for ASU this year for a few reasons (weak run defense vs good running team, lost best RB and WR, lost entire secondary). It might get ugly.

However there's two things to consider: One, this is a team with 3 straight FCS championships. It's well coached and has good talent for FCS football.

Tulane. LSU led 10-9 at the half last year. Tulane played really well, and LSU played really poorly, but still, if that isn't proof that you need to show up for a game...
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 7/7/08 at 8:33 pm to
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As I've said in a couple of other posts, I think this is a bad matchup for ASU this year for a few reasons (weak run defense vs good running team, lost best RB and WR, lost entire secondary). It might get ugly.


My main curiousity is how do we strategically handle the 3 creampuffs prior to what may retroactively be a must win game. Do we hold back on passing so as not to give DC's a view of our weakest aspect of our offence? Or do we overdo that for the simple fact to give whichever QB we use a crash course in game playing? By a similar token, do we focus on our strength in QB scrambling, or do we hide it up till Auburn?

To be honest, with the supporting cast we have, and with the warm up style schedule, I really don't see any reason why we shouldn't contend for the SEC/national title. Our main problem at QB is experience, not talent.

So the problem is definately a major one, but not a insurmountable one as long as the coaches play this one smart, i.e. don't spend the season going back and forth on QBs ala 04.
This post was edited on 7/7/08 at 8:40 pm
Posted by phillyAPP
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Posted on 7/7/08 at 8:37 pm to
I think you need to a little more reading.

remember i said our speed and depth has grown every year, even this year. We have atleast 3 RB's as good as KRichardson . Dexter Jackson was not the only WR. We used all our WR's every game. Check out our playoff stats. cQuick knows his brother and Armanti is a complete QB.

Our D-Line will be the best and deepest ever.

I'll give you our O-line question against LSU.

If LSU blows us out then you will be right but I am guessing it won't happen.

I am man enough if we get blown out to come back on this board and praise LSU.

It won't be hard, I like LSU Football.
Posted by phillyAPP
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Posted on 7/7/08 at 8:43 pm to
Hey we are cupcakes according to Herbstreit.

And the SEC will have plenty of tape of your D covering the whole field.

And on Offense, LSU will have to score early and often so you have to show something. LSU will play the game to win and will run the plays that work.
Posted by Stamps
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Posted on 7/7/08 at 8:50 pm to
I am totally fine with App. State putting the Michigan score on there ring. It is arguably there best and biggest win ever. Come on guys, they beat the all time winningest team in coll. football in the biggest coll. football stadium. That is unreal.

Now, no "homerism" aside, I think we'll handle up pretty easily (38-14ish). I think there offensive line has NO SHOT at covering our defensive line. Quote me now if you like, "There will be sacks."

None the less, beating Michigan was a great accomplishment by the Mountaineers and we cannot take that away from them.
This post was edited on 7/7/08 at 8:52 pm
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 7/7/08 at 8:50 pm to
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And the SEC will have plenty of tape of your D covering the whole field.

And on Offense, LSU will have to score early and often so you have to show something. LSU will play the game to win and will run the plays that work.


Not worried about our D so much outside of handling the rapid recognition/response of those damned short slanted passes. Outside of that we are good.

Offense though...funny that 6 months ago I thought we might have had one of our best offenses ever. fricking RP...

That said though, I just don't feel scoring early and often will be an obligation for any game other than Appy, and perhaps not even then. And even if it is the issue, we may be able to get away with scoring without focusing on QB play.
Posted by champ24
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Posted on 7/7/08 at 9:01 pm to
App State held LSU to 24 at home in 05.

In 05 LSU

at No. 15 Arizona State W 35-31
No. 10 Tennessee L 30-27
at Mississippi State W 37-7
at Vanderbilt W 34-6
Mississippi W 40-7
vs No. 17 Miami (FL) W 40-3

Looking at these scores, any person with a 4th grade education could understand an see App State played you bette than you 1-A/SEC competition. Some of you people really crack me up. App State getting BLOWN AWAY, definitely wont happen. App will definitely give LSU more fits than you expect. This could be a trap game for LSU. LSU normally struggles with Dual-threat qbs anyway. LSU should win, but you people sound very similiar to those fans in Ann Arbor last year.
Posted by phillyAPP
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Posted on 7/7/08 at 9:03 pm to
ok 24

this is 2008
Posted by NorfolkVATiger
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Posted on 7/7/08 at 9:10 pm to
Philly,

I'm skeptical of whether USC can really replace Sedrick Ellis and their great DE without some dropoff.

I'm skeptical of whether LSU's stable of talent can plug in CBs this year without a dropoff.

If I can be skeptical of top recruiting programs like that to plug in talented guys without noticing a change, I think it's reasonable for me to think ASU might have issues too.

Nothing personal - it's one thing to have talent, another thing to have proven guys. At any level.
Posted by appguy
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 7/7/08 at 9:14 pm to
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Hell NO 1AA gets a long plaque Its almost stupid LSU gets the crystal We do have a playoff, though !!!!!!!!!!


If you wanna call the sanctioned NCAA trophy that EVERY other sport (besides 1A football) gets a "long plaque"

it just shows that the NCAA doesn't really crown a 1A champion in football as much as I think they should recognize it that way, its only a "BCS Champion"
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 7/7/08 at 9:17 pm to
Thank you...especially considering that our OC and DC have changed since then.

But for the sake of argument 24...did you not notice that you did not score any points either, not even a field goal. Have you thought that maybe we only scored 24 because Jimbo with his unimaginative offenses didn't want to really show his hand when it was not needed? It was only 24 points, but being at that game I do not really remember any point where App really gave a fight. They resisted, but at no point did they gain control of the game.
Posted by appguy
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Posted on 7/7/08 at 9:19 pm to
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I'm skeptical of whether LSU's stable of talent can plug in CBs this year without a dropoff. If I can be skeptical of top recruiting programs like that to plug in talented guys without noticing a change, I think it's reasonable for me to think ASU might have issues too. Nothing personal - it's one thing to have talent, another thing to have proven guys. At any level.


Its nice to see actual analysis instead of pure smack.
I agree completely, we could have trouble stopping the pass with an all new secondary but it helps having a somewhat unproven QB doing the passing on them. I feel fairly comfortable with Armanti throwing on your secondary as long as our Oline can hold off the dogs.(which is why we need quick plays, at least at the beginning)
Posted by phillyAPP
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Posted on 7/7/08 at 9:23 pm to
I agree we dont know until they play.

it is crazy but for the last 3 years the insiders at APP have been extremely accurate about their evaluation of the team. They have said over and over this team is the deepest and most talented and that APP can play with anyone.

Until LSU pounds APP I have to go with what i have seen and I know.To an LSU fan that sounds so stupid because APP is only 1AA. We will see.

Again i appreciate you trying to know who we are.

Thank you LSU for inviting us !
This post was edited on 7/7/08 at 9:27 pm
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 7/7/08 at 9:28 pm to
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Looking at these scores, any person with a 4th grade education could understand an see App State played you bette than you 1-A/SEC competition. Some of you people really crack me up. App State getting BLOWN AWAY, definitely wont happen. App will definitely give LSU more fits than you expect. This could be a trap game for LSU. LSU normally struggles with Dual-threat qbs anyway. LSU should win, but you people sound very similiar to those fans in Ann Arbor last year


You are kidding yourself if you think you got LSU's best in 05...very little if any specific gameplan. Very little enthusiasm for the game.

This year will be similar. You won't get LSU's best. I suspect that LSU will run for 200+ pretty easily and win without stretching itself offensively.
Posted by NorfolkVATiger
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Posted on 7/7/08 at 9:34 pm to
Hey I watched your game against Michigan on the BTN recently.

Did you ever hear why Hart sat on the sidelines riding the bike for most of the game? He told the sideline reporter he was fine, but the coaches held him out for much of the game. He tore things up in the 4th Q but it was too late.

Any idea what that was all about?
Posted by phillyAPP
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/7/08 at 9:45 pm to
No i don't know and don't think Mike Hart knew why but it may have cost them the game their running game needed him. He said in interviews he was fine and I respect him because from the end of the game he gave APP props for playing hard and earning the game. Coach Car on the other hand had to wait until late Sunday to admit he got out coached and played.

Do you know we only played 29 players on Offense and Defense the whole game. We threw 2 interceptions and dropped a TD and still made the plays to win.

Again the 2008 APP team will be different as well as LSU so Aug 30 we all will see.
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