Started By
Message

re: Anyone take a guess how many home runs have been hit in CWS?

Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:32 am to
Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
7489 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:32 am to
quote:

I think there were only 3 hit last season. Katz was one of them.


And we had 3 or 4 hit to the walls that would have been homeruns in most parks. The distance and wind direction neuters teams with power. Warren Morris' walk-off homer would have probably been a long fly out, or a double in that park.
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 9:36 am
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
59552 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:33 am to
quote:

This tells me that the problem is with the game of college baseball and not the stadium.



the stadium makes it worse.
Posted by LSU=Champions
BAWxtard | Tier 1
Member since Apr 2004
22352 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:37 am to
Something tells me you don't follow college baseball very well.
Posted by tigerfan019
Member since Apr 2014
88 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:37 am to
LINK

That graphic explains everything. 2010 was the way it should have stayed. BESR bats with no composite barrels. The game was more exciting but it was not as easy for hitters without the comp bats. The NCAA is ruining this game and this exciting week.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10994 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:39 am to
quote:

the stadium makes it worse.


I understand. The fences can be moved in. I'm afraid college baseball has evolved into something unnatural. College basketball and college football don't seem to me as different from the NBA and NFL respectively as college baseball is from MLB and the minor leagues.

Wood bats are the obvious solution but the finances need to be worked out.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10994 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:40 am to
quote:

Something tells me you don't follow college baseball very well.


I admit that I don't follow it very well. I keep track on how LSU is doing and the local big ten team that's about it.

But wood bats seem to be the obvious solution.
Posted by LSU=Champions
BAWxtard | Tier 1
Member since Apr 2004
22352 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:41 am to
quote:

Warren Morris' walk-off homer would have probably been a long fly out, or a double in that park.


Wouldn't have made it close to the warning track.
Posted by deSandman
Member since Mar 2007
969 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:51 am to
quote:

In the majors and minors ballparks all have different dimensions and different wind locations with different wind patterns.

This tells me that the problem is with the game of college baseball and not the stadium.

In the pros they don't host the World Series in a stadium that is harder for hitters than any stadium either team has played in up to that point.

Sure, its possible for college teams to play small ball and move runners. The issue comes with designing your entire baseball program around (a) somewhere between 2 and 7 games at the end of the year that (b) only 8 teams even get to play in.

Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40080 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:55 am to
quote:

Wood bats are the obvious solution

How do you figure?
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10994 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:55 am to
quote:

Sure, its possible for college teams to play small ball and move runners. The issue comes with designing your entire baseball program around (a) somewhere between 2 and 7 games at the end of the year that (b) only 8 teams even get to play in.


Good baseball people can make adjustments when necessary. Sure there is the home field advantage but if you're a good baseball coach and build a good baseball program you can make the adjustments to win the CWS at Omaha.

True baseball people can do that. People who play a game with aluminum bats in some nintendo version of baseball can't.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:56 am to
quote:

But wood bats seem to be the obvious solution.


Wood bats are not at all the solution. They are significantly more expensive and that puts a heavy burden that might not even be financially possible for a lower budget program.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10994 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:57 am to
quote:

How do you figure?


It takes out the video game aspect college baseball has become. Pitchers and hitters play a different game with wood and it requires more strategy and better skilled hitters and pitchers.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40080 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:58 am to
quote:

Sure there is the home field advantage but if you're a good baseball coach and build a good baseball program you can make the adjustments to win the CWS at Omaha.

What about the ~60 games you have to play in order to advance to Omaha? This is a stupid argument. Forcing everyone to play a completely different brand of baseball in the sport's premier event is idiotic, no matter how you slice it.
Posted by LSU=Champions
BAWxtard | Tier 1
Member since Apr 2004
22352 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:59 am to
What video game aspect is college baseball now? Are you stuck in the mid-1990s?
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10994 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:59 am to
quote:

What about the ~60 games you have to play in order to advance to Omaha? This is a stupid argument. Forcing everyone to play a completely different brand of baseball in the sport's premier event is idiotic, no matter how you slice it.


Baseball is not basketball and football. Each field has different dimensions and conditions.

Good baseball people can make the adjustments that come with different ballparks. It's that simple really.
Posted by LSU=Champions
BAWxtard | Tier 1
Member since Apr 2004
22352 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:00 am to
Ralphy boy seems like someone who hates changing things. He sees something and thinks, well that's the way it's gotta be and people are going to have to deal with it.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40080 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:00 am to
quote:

It takes out the video game aspect college baseball has become. Pitchers and hitters play a different game with wood and it requires more strategy and better skilled hitters and pitchers.

What are you talking about? The current bats and wooden bats react almost exactly the same. Wood may be more lively, actually.

This isn't even touching on the financial burden that buying wooden bats puts on the 250+ teams that have nowhere near the budget for baseball that SEC and ACC teams have.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10994 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:01 am to
quote:

Wood bats are not at all the solution. They are significantly more expensive and that puts a heavy burden that might not even be financially possible for a lower budget program.


Well then you make budget choices. The big five conferences should switch to wood bats. Division IV is coming and that is a solution.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40080 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:01 am to
quote:

Good baseball people can make the adjustments that come with different ballparks. It's that simple really.

You don't seem to understand how vastly different TD Ameritrade Park is than every other park in terms of dimensions, wind and carry of the ball.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:01 am to
quote:

Pitchers and hitters play a different game with wood and it requires more strategy and better skilled hitters and pitchers


Playing with wooden bats does not require "better skilled pitchers".
first pageprev pagePage 4 of 9Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram