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Posted on 5/24/19 at 4:07 am to
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 5/24/19 at 4:07 am to
Right because who cares if he knows how to play football as long as he can lift and have some stamina. Oh yea and be invincible since the right S&C coach can totally prevent injuries from ever happening too. Remember when Tony Mandarich was the greatest olineman to ever live? I don’t lol.
This post was edited on 5/24/19 at 4:11 am
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 5/24/19 at 4:10 am to
Cregg, Johnson, but first contact will likely go through the territory guy who has the prospect in his territory.

And if the guy is a must-have, O or Aranda or E might make the first contact
This post was edited on 5/24/19 at 4:13 am
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31928 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 4:12 am to
quote:

Cregg


You just said that Cregg is responsible for about 5% of the offensive line.

quote:

IMO, the line position coach is responsible for roughly about 5% as important as the S&C coach.



Hmmmm.


It sure wouldn't be O, now would it? He'd have a lot to answer for if that was the case, right?
This post was edited on 5/24/19 at 11:28 pm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 4:13 am to
It might be O for a 5-star - i edited the above before you posted
This post was edited on 5/24/19 at 4:15 am
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 5/24/19 at 4:18 am to
What makes a 5 star not a 4 star if both players are the same size? Didnt you just say you only recruit o lineman based on size?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 5/24/19 at 4:20 am to
Cregg makes $475,000 per year, Moffitt makes $115,000 per years but Moffitt job is 90% more important than Cregg’s. So why are their salaries so out of balance? I mean if we go by Buckeyes expertises it should be Moffitt making $560,500, and Cregg making 29,500. It doesn’t make sense, something isn’t right here.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 4:25 am to
Here's an article on why the O-Line is the hardest position to recruit:

LINK

quote:

That means projecting the future frames of 16- to 18-year-olds and those players' willingness to pack on the needed weight and power (if that sounds easy, consider that 2013 No. 1 NFL Draft pick Eric Fisher gained 70 pounds in college after weighing 250 as a two-star prospect). And that takes time. The instances of freshmen starting on offensive lines are particularly rare, as a good line is usually built with upperclassmen. Coaches hope most linemen will emerge ready to contribute after two or three years in the program.

Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 5/24/19 at 4:27 am to
You didnt answer my question. What separates a 5 star from a 4 star if they are both the same size? You said you recruit lineman based on measurables.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 4:33 am to
quote:

You didnt answer my question. What separates a 5 star from a 4 star if they are both the same size? You said you recruit lineman based on measurables.


Read the article. Linemen are the toughest position to assign "stars" that actually pan out. Has FAR more to do with development at the college level than raw measurables at the high school level.

Also, different programs liked different frames. Meyer liked very tall, rangey & fast tackles. And "road-grader" guards. "as wide as they are tall" if he could find them.
This post was edited on 5/24/19 at 4:36 am
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 5/24/19 at 4:36 am to
You're avoiding giving me a straight answer because it ruins your argument.

That's cool.
This post was edited on 5/24/19 at 4:37 am
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 4:39 am to
quote:

You're avoiding giving me a straight answer because it ruins your argument.

That's cool.

I gave you MY answer.

What is the answer you are TRYING to get me to give you? I'll tell you my opinion of THAT.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 4:54 am to
Here's an article on this year's draft:
quote:

Offensive line is often considered the toughest position to project for high school players, and that proved to be the case with this year’s first-round crop. Jonah Williams went from five-star recruit to first-round pick in three years, and Kaleb McGary was a four-star in 2014. But the other four first-round offensive linemen — Chris Lindstrom, Garrett Bradbury, Andre Dillard and Tytus Howard — were also outside the top 1,000 in their classes. (Bradbury and Howard weren’t even listed as linemen.)

LINK

Again, excellent O-Linemen are far better Developed than recruited. And that happens mostly in S&C.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 5:02 am to
quote:

Weren't you just arguing how important technique is earlier?


Earlier in this thread he said that Burrow didn't have the stats to be a top 5 QB in 2018. After an entire season of claiming the exact opposite.

When I asked him about his change of opinion of Burrow, he reverted back to Burrow being a top 5 QB in college football during the 2018 season, and that 2019 the sky's the limit.

One page later.

Since that post, I've decided to either call him Crawfish Jeaux or Waffle Jeaux.

quote:

Make up your mind.


He can't. He's worse than any woman I've ever been associated with.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31928 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 5:05 am to
quote:

You're avoiding giving me a straight answer because it ruins your argument.


He did the same thing to me. Posts about depth is great and all but these are young kids who need to be developed. But completely skips over the actual OL coach, who is responsible for the OL, hence the title of his position, but even when that is addressed, he still does it. Instead he tries to inform me about how recruiting works. Weird


It’s pretty obvious where his loyalties lie.


His arguments blow up in his face and he still goes on with his nonsense.
This post was edited on 5/24/19 at 5:11 am
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 5:13 am to
Morning birdman.

quote:

But completely skips over the actual OL coach, who is responsible for the OL, hence the title of his position, but even when that is addressed, he still does it.


Cregg's an o hire. We can't let o look bad when it comes to his hiring of coaches. Especially after the Matt Canada fiasco.

quote:

It’s pretty obvious where his loyalties lie.


A blind man could see it.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 5:16 am to
It is pathetic. That is probably the thing I can't stand the most. Just admit you're in favor of what is in O's best interest. Not necessarily LSU's.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 5:22 am to
You're confusing 2 points

1) The STATS to be a Top-5 QB in the NFL draft...
with
2) The TALENT to be one of the Top-5 QBs in college ball.

You are also neglecting the FACT that most GMs (bean counters) and owners (temp staffers, gas frackers, trust fund babies, etc.) are every bit as CLUELESS about football as you are.

If they don't see stats, they don't greenlight
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 5:31 am to
You're the one that is confused.

This draft literally saw a mediocre QB from Duke get drafted by one of them there bean counters.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 5:37 am to
quote:

You're the one that is confused.

This draft literally saw a mediocre QB from Duke get drafted by one of them there bean counters.


No, You're still confused. The word "most" does not mean "all".
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 6:31 am to
Do some of y’all actually take these quotes seriously? I’ve always likened these anonymous quotes to tabloid material.
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