re: And yet we can't get any of our QBs near this level...

This... All we need is for JJ to be serviceable/manageable guy and for the other pieces of the puzzle to fall in place then we'll be there in the end. Hes not going to be JR or RD but he can get us what we need if he just steps up a little more.

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you are going to be left without much to say if JJ doesnt do alot of improving in the next 5-6 months.
That is a fact buddy.

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and you aren't if he does?

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and you aren't if he does?

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notice how he started posting a lot more on the rant since the spring game?

fwiw i said last year that gilbert as a freshman was already better than jefferson

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no.. b/c unlike many people that post here, Id rather win and be sucessful, than be right on a message board.

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That's not really relevant.

You said Doc would have nothing to say if JJ didn't improve.

I said you would have nothing to say if JJ did.

sure it is...
I didnt say he couldnt or wouldnt improve, i just said I dont think hes that good.

actually what i said was (more than once) is that JJ is an athlete playing qb and he has learned this isnt Destrehan HS.
FWIW...Lots of people agree.

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There is a reason that NFL teams are getting more gunshy about picking a QB

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There is also a reason that college teams see starting a Freshman or Soph as a liability.

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Ill agree with this.
people too much empahsis on GC(coaching) and forget the above.

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Then why dont we all step away from the knighting of one QB or the other and let competition sort this thing out?

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Mayhawman

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dont like competition do you?

lot of idiots on that dd poll last week huh?
maybe if we could spend some time with a genius such as yourself we could learn.

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I'll enter the fray, what the hell?

First, even though MF led LSU to the NC in '07, he didn't have the greatest year. Hell, we're one of the only teams ever to lose 2 games and win a NC. But, while not spectacular, MF did make plays i.e. the Auburn game and he sustained drives. To me, that is where a QB makes his money - 3rd down conversions.

Now to JJ. He was forced to play behind one of the worst offensive lines I have ever seen at LSU both in run blocking and in pass protection. He was consistently in 3rd and long situations and did not fare well in overcoming these predicaments. He holds onto the ball too long and did not appear to have great pocket presence or mechanics, both are characteristic of a young QB. Bc of all of these factors, the offense struggled greatly.

Now, would JJ have had more success with the '07 supporting cast. Without a doubt. Would he have won a NC? Probably not. So I'll give the nod to Flynn in his fifth year over JJ in his second/first year.

As for JL, he is probably the most gifted passer of all three of the QBs, but he has zero pocket presence , zero mobility, and makes poor decisions under pressure. So unless you can hide him behind the great wall of China, I don't think he's the answer either. At least JJ can make plays with his legs when the protection breaks down.