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re: Analyzing Lee's Throws (With Screenshots)

Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:12 am to
Posted by rickyh
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Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:12 am to
Deangelo Peterson Bio

Courtesy: LSUsports.net
Release: 07/13/2011

One of the SEC's top tight ends ... Versatile and experienced athlete who gives the Tigers a player who can both catch and block ... Has good speed and can stretch the field vertically from the tight end spot ... Continues to improve as a blocker in the run game ... Originally signed with the Tigers as a wide receiver but converted to tight end prior to his sophomore season ... Heads into his senior year with five career starts and playing time in 36 games ... Has totaled 281 yards receiving on 21 catches with two touchdowns.
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:13 am to
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So this is our top receiver


Both RS and Randle are statistically superior to Deangelo Peterson, and you said that Peterson was our only proven WR.
Posted by rickyh
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Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:14 am to
Kadron Boone Bio

Courtesy: LSUsports.net
Release: 07/13/2011

Second-year receiver who will see his playing time increase in 2011 ... Has combination of good speed, size and route running ability ... Played in all 13 games as a true freshman in 2010.

FRESHMAN SEASON (2010)
Played in all 13 games with no starts ... Finished rookie season with the Tigers with four receptions for 62 yards ... Had best game in regular season finale vs. Arkansas with two receptions for 40 yards, including a long of 24 yards ... Had one catch against both Alabama and Louisiana-Monro
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:15 am to
I noticed that many of his throws were done with poor fundamentals for a fifth year senior. Many of them were flat footed even when not under pressure. He was still staring down receivers a lot also. Having said all that, he didn't throw any INTs and he did make some plays when we needed him to. We don't need a QB that will throw for 300 yards, we need one that will keep the defense honest and make plays when needed. I think Lee is that guy much more than Jefferson.

I'm glad someone else brought this up. I was going to, but I figured I would just be called a nega Tiger who hates Miles and deep down is only happy when the Tigers are losing.

Posted by slackster
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Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:15 am to
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rickyh


What are you getting at? What is your point?
Posted by rickyh
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Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:16 am to
James Wright Bio

Courtesy: LSUsports.net
Release: 07/13/2011

Very talented wide receiver prospect who will be counted on in 2011 ... Great hands and route running ability ... Came on strong in spring practice and was one of the recipient's of the "Most Improved" award ... Hauled in four catches for 32 yards in the 2011 National L Club Spring Game ... Played a reserve role in 12 games as a true freshman.

FRESHMAN SEASON (2010)
Played in 12 games with no starts ... Caught two passes for 21 yards ... Made his first career catch versus ULM and also hauled in an eight-yard pass at Arkansas.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
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Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:16 am to
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but when you take every single chance to attack Lee's game in your comments,


well the post is about Jarrett Lee. Why would I talk about anyone else's game? I didn't "attack" anything.

I posted what I saw. Some people respectfully disagreed throughout the thread (Lester, slackster, King Joey). I gave them credit and acknowledged that they had valid points.

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You made some valid points, but your overall negativity directed at Lee is why people have responded as they have.



Ok.

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Your defense against my points have been looking at the WVU game, and one series he was in there. Yet, you claim it's a pattern he has shown hasn't improved. That is easily refutable when you look at the UT, UF, and Bama games.


I didn't feel the need to defend something that I thought was a pretty commonly accepted fact.

I guess you really believe Lee has looked confident from 2009 on. I don't think most people do. I don't think I need to go through every bullet point to make this case.

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Keep up the good work though. I am sure the Cowboys and Eagles will love to get this type of analysis from one of their biggest fans.



Congrats, that's only like your 10th red herring this thread.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
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Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:17 am to
I think Ricky is drunk.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:18 am to
quote:

I think Ricky is drunk.


I'll have what he is having.
Posted by Geaux2002
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:19 am to
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Congrats, that's only like your 10th red herring this thread.


Yeah, I am the one using red herrings and the one refusing to back up my claims. Ah, this has been quite entertaining.
Posted by rickyh
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Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:19 am to
Add it up! Add them all together and you don't have one good receiver. You are not smart enough to get it. Blame the QB. He hit them in the hands but that doesn't count. And you still don't get it?
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:22 am to
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We don't need a QB that will throw for 300 yards, we need one that will keep the defense honest and make plays when needed.


Yeah, pretty much.

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
89808 posts
Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:25 am to
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rickyh
Analyzing Lee's Throws (With Screenshots)
Hint, would a pro team keep these guys on the roster if they caught like this in pre season? Short answer, No! We have 1, 1, proven receiver on this team playing right now. Deangelo. ... Give me the stats of all the others. Post them! Show us how great they are. UNfricking proven. Freshman are starting ahead of upper class men. Does that tell you anything? No! Not one darn thing. Why? Because you all know more than Sean P.





Your own words say that Deangelo is our only proven WR. You and I both posted the stats showing that RS and Randle have even better stats than Deangelo. You have no point.

Obvious troll is obvious.
Posted by rickyh
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Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:29 am to
TT didn't get drafted. a 5 star. Go back and look at the high lights of D-Byrd and Brandon LaFell when Lee threw to them his red shirt year and see if they caught the ball and ran with it.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:30 am to
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Yeah, I am the one using red herrings and the one refusing to back up my claims.


Why do you want me to write an essay on Jarrett Lee's confidence so that you can go line by line and tell me how you disagree.

It's a fricking exercise in futility.

No one else is even willing to chime into what you are saying because it's ridiculous. You're just trying to pick a fight about nothing.


I offered my opinion: Jarrett Lee has a fragile ego. I am referring to when he steps onto the football field.

This apparently offended you to the point of repeatedly stating the same things over and over again for 3 pages now.

So here, I'll spell it out for you:
-Booed mercilessly in '08 after a rough freshman season which resulted in the dreaded "pick sixes" which are STILL referenced to do this day
-Lost his job to a true freshman
-Publicly insulted by teammates, who also quit on him.
-Participated and lost 3 consecutive years worth of QB competitions
-Came back the next year overweight and out of shape
-Started against La. Tech, played miserably
-Comes in against Tennessee, plays pretty well. Comes in against Florida, plays really well. Still remains the back up. Play weakens as the year wears on.

I guess I'm just reaching here, but I'd say most normal people would take a pretty big confidence hit. Add that to his general body language and looks of confusion, I don't think it's a wild stretch for me to suggest that his confidence as a player is low and needs to be rebuilt.
This post was edited on 9/5/11 at 1:32 am
Posted by rickyh
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Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:34 am to
At this rate, DP who is a tight end, will get drafted higher than RR. That is if either get drafted. LSU is going to run the ball this year. They will pass only if needed. JL did not look great all the time. But he threw the ball better that his stats showed. The real question is, why are they paying Billy G.
Posted by rickyh
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Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:36 am to
Quit posting!
Posted by OBUDan
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Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:40 am to
This is my thread! You quit posting nonsense.
Posted by rickyh
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Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:44 am to
When did facts become nonsense? Tight ends aren't expected to have wide receiver numbers. But by position, which you would be ignorant of, DP is the better player. By the way, what were their stats Sat. night?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:46 am to
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I noticed that many of his throws were done with poor fundamentals for a fifth year senior. Many of them were flat footed even when not under pressure.



everyone is a QB coach now it seems. pretty funny.
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