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re: Analyzing Lee's Throws (With Screenshots)

Posted on 9/5/11 at 12:55 am to
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
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Posted on 9/5/11 at 12:55 am to
I don't see how that contradicts what I said.

I hope our QB coach doesn't instruct our QB to just lob it out there and as long as they can put their hands on it you did good.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 9/5/11 at 12:56 am to
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I think it's funny that you and your "Lee hating" crew are just as bad as the Lee sunshine pumpers. You both take it to an extreme, and it's pretty pathetic on all fronts.


You are unbearable. Seriously, just go away.

I'm trying to talk about football not get into a pissing match about who likes and hates Lee or JJ.

I'm not in high school, and I'm sorry that you are.
This post was edited on 9/5/11 at 12:57 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/5/11 at 12:56 am to
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HE is the one claiming that Lee hasn't shown confidence since mid 2009


He is right. You would also be correct to say that he has shown confidence in the last few years. Both of you are right and both of you are wrong. Neither of you know which is true in reality, and neither do I. However, there is no rational reason to say why bringing JJ back would be good for Lee, so you are arguing a dumb point.
This post was edited on 9/5/11 at 12:58 am
Posted by Geaux2002
Member since Jun 2011
3561 posts
Posted on 9/5/11 at 12:57 am to
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Watch his 2-3 plays against WVU. It's like 3 successive mental mistakes, and him looking around in a state of confusion before getting yanked again.

Against Florida he looked more in control and confident than he has in a long, long time. But he didn't sustain it. He (and JJ) looked like rubbish against McNeese or whoever.

I'm willing to bet you are one of a select minority that honestly believe Jarrett Lee has looked confident playing out there.

I don't know why I'm having to explain this to you. But seriously, I get it. Lee can do no wrong in your eyes. That's fine. We just disagree.


He's looked rattled at times like you mentioned in the WVU game, but what do you expect when it's his first legit time at QB in almost 2 years and he's put into the fire.

Lee showed up just fine against UT and then UF in consecutive games. He stood in and played the best he could in Auburn, but I won't criticize him in a game where he was put back in the game with a messed up throwing wrist. Alabama, he looked fine when he got a shot.

He played poorly like the whole team against ULM and McNeese, but acting like his confidence is an issue is not the case.

Again, if you want to talk about his ability to look pressure in the face and throw into it, then I'd agree. He's improved on that, but still has a way to go there. If you are claiming he can't confidently run the offense, then you are flat our wrong, because the best our offense looked was with him in the game.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/5/11 at 12:57 am to
Lee's performance was similar to JJ's against msu last season
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 9/5/11 at 12:57 am to
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JJ had a shitload of drops last season.


It's cause of the WRS dude! They suck!
Posted by rickyh
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Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 9/5/11 at 12:59 am to
Hint, would a pro team keep these guys on the roster if they caught like this in pre season? Short answer, No! We have 1, 1, proven receiver on this team playing right now. Deangelo. ... Give me the stats of all the others. Post them! Show us how great they are. UNfricking proven. Freshman are starting ahead of upper class men. Does that tell you anything? No! Not one darn thing. Why? Because you all know more than Sean P.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
89801 posts
Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:01 am to
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Lee's performance was similar to JJ's against msu last season




Huh?

Lee's performance statistically against the #3 team on the road is the same as JJ's performance at home against MSU? I am assuming you mean Mississippi State, because if you mean Mcneese State, you are absolutely delusional. Hell either one of them would be a terrible comparison to last night.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:02 am to
Your rants are getting to be pretty legendary.

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We have 1, 1, proven receiver on this team playing right now. Deangelo. ... Give me the stats of all the others.


Pretty sure Rueben Randle has a lot better career numbers than DeAngelo Peterson.

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Freshman are starting ahead of upper class men.


Not really. 2 Freshman played in a rotation with 2 sophomores because our Junior starting WR was suspended...

Any of your other misguided thoughts you'd like me to correct?
Posted by Geaux2002
Member since Jun 2011
3561 posts
Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:02 am to
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I'm trying to talk about football not get into a pissing match about who likes and hates Lee or JJ.


No you're not. You're trying to simply attack anyone who tries to defend Lee as not playing horrible last night. You are going out of your way to criticize every little thing he did or didn't do and minimize the blame on the WR corps.

You are the one attacking others to start with throughout this entire topic if they didn't agree with your stance.

quote:

I'm not in high school, and I'm sorry that you are.


Ah, back to these types of comments to fight your battles instead of legitimate discussion. Yup, it must be me that's immature.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
89801 posts
Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:03 am to
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Hint, would a pro team keep these guys on the roster if they caught like this in pre season?


Would a pro team keep JL on the roster if he threw like that in the pre season?

See how dumb your reasoning is?

Randle is also a proven, top-flight receiver. We need to get him more involved.
Posted by DrinkPurplePissGold
Death Valley's Basement
Member since Jul 2011
212 posts
Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:04 am to
I was just glad to see that we have a QB that would make a decision and throw the ball. Last season JJ would wave the ball around for 5 seconds then get smashed... then he would shake his head like it was the O Lines fault.
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12720 posts
Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:05 am to
Post his career stats.
Posted by Housplants
Germantown, TN
Member since Dec 2006
1464 posts
Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:06 am to
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I hope our QB coach doesn't instruct our QB to just lob it out there


So this is what you saw last night?

Now I am convinced...you are not biased at all. I bow to your objectiveness and your superior football knowledge.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:06 am to
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You're trying to simply attack anyone who tries to defend Lee as not playing horrible last night.


Who have I attacked?

I posted a thread. People responded, most of which proceeded to tell me how stupid and wrong I am, so I merely defended my stance.

I haven't attacked anyone until you showed up and started acting like a 12-year-old.

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You are the one attacking others to start with throughout this entire topic if they didn't agree with your stance.


Do you look in the mirror and blame your reflection for being ugly?

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Ah, back to these types of comments to fight your battles instead of legitimate discussion. Yup, it must be me that's immature.



Okay. I've tried to say goodnight to you at least 5 times, but it's clear my opinion really bothers you enough that you just can't get enough of me.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:08 am to
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So this is what you saw last night?



No.

You are trying to making something out of nothing here.

I don't disagree with you. They dropped passes. That doesn't mean they were good throws.

I don't see why it's so hard for you to acknowledge this.
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12720 posts
Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:10 am to
True junior who has played in 26 games with 13 starts during his career with the Tigers ... Enters the season as the team's top returning receiver after making 33 catches for 544 yards and three scores in 2010.

So this is our top receiver
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
89801 posts
Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:11 am to
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Post his career stats.


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Goes into 2011 season with 44 career receptions for 717 yards and five touchdowns


As for Peterson-

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Has totaled 281 yards receiving on 21 catches with two touchdowns.


Next question?
Posted by Geaux2002
Member since Jun 2011
3561 posts
Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:12 am to
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Okay. I've tried to say goodnight to you at least 5 times, but it's clear my opinion really bothers you enough that you just can't get enough of me.


Yeah that's it.

You post a nice collection of still photos from relevant passes, and I give you credit for that, but when you take every single chance to attack Lee's game in your comments, you wonder why people find your argument silly and contrived? Seriously?

You made some valid points, but your overall negativity directed at Lee is why people have responded as they have.

Your defense against my points have been looking at the WVU game, and one series he was in there. Yet, you claim it's a pattern he has shown hasn't improved. That is easily refutable when you look at the UT, UF, and Bama games.

Keep up the good work though. I am sure the Cowboys and Eagles will love to get this type of analysis from one of their biggest fans.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:12 am to
According to you our top receiver has 25 catches for a little under 300 yards and 2 TDs.
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