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re: Am I the only one who finds it strange that they took JJ's DNA...
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:17 pm to diehardfan
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:17 pm to diehardfan
These tests run anywhere from $500 to $1,000 per test. At 98 shoes this would have cost anywhere from $49,000 to $98,000. There is no way they ran a DNA test on each individual shoe.
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Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:18 pm to MichiganTiger
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Am I the only one who finds it strange that they took JJ's DNA.
maybe something else was done to the guy on the ground besides kicking him?
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:20 pm to omegaman66
Depends on who is doing the analysis. If it goes to State Police crime lab your looking at maybe two months. You can try and expedite it and speed it up some. If I'm not mistaken BRPD has their own crime lab so they may have been able to get it done pretty damn quick. As in, between bed times quick.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:25 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
The question, which nobody has answered, is whether this is standard procedure for this type of criminal activity. If this happens the majority of the time for these incidents, costs aside, then it should have occurred in this case. However, if they merely did this due to the "celebrity" and publicity of the participants and situation, then this was a huge error on the part of the BRPD, and they should have to answer for this. Their grandstanding alone would lead me to believe it's the latter.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:27 pm to diehardfan
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Good God, some of yall are stupid.
Why thank you for your input. What is your take on this then genius?
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:52 pm to Tiger Authority
Yes. It is common. Any investigation where DNA can be used as forensic evidence, then it is.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:53 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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Yes. It is common. Any investigation where DNA can be used as forensic evidence, then it is.
Any investigation? I didn't know that.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:59 pm to Tiger Authority
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The question, which nobody has answered, is whether this is standard procedure for this type of criminal activity. If this happens the majority of the time for these incidents, costs aside, then it should have occurred in this case. However, if they merely did this due to the "celebrity" and publicity of the participants and situation, then this was a huge error on the part of the BRPD, and they should have to answer for this. Their grandstanding alone would lead me to believe it's the latter.
Would you expect NFL officials to take longer on a review of a play in a preseason game or the deciding play of a super bowl? There's your answer.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:08 pm to martiallaw
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These tests run anywhere from $500 to $1,000 per test.
That is ridiculous. These tests are $5-$20 - cost.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:09 pm to MichiganTiger
yes
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:23 pm to Tiger Authority
Put it this way. If you throw a McDonalds cup out the window and get a littering ticket and decide to take it to trial. The officer can collect that cup, get a search warrant to obtain a buccal swab from you for comparison and send these to the crime lab for analysis.
That being said, would any officer do that? Most likely not. When it gets to the crime lab it will have a small synopsis of the offense. This being a very minor offense, it would get pushed to the bottom of the pile. Realistically, the DA would plead it down to avoid all the wasted time.
Bottom line, yes its used if possible and necessary to close a case one way or another
That being said, would any officer do that? Most likely not. When it gets to the crime lab it will have a small synopsis of the offense. This being a very minor offense, it would get pushed to the bottom of the pile. Realistically, the DA would plead it down to avoid all the wasted time.
Bottom line, yes its used if possible and necessary to close a case one way or another
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:29 pm to MichiganTiger
Really?
Do you think its serves any purpose to keep discussing this crap?
It's time to move on. There are no dark, secret motives or a shadow conspiracy.
Yes, it's a high profile incident. QB at LSU s a high profile position. LSU football is of great importance in Baton Rouge.
Deal with it.
Let the process play out and let the rest of the team, the program and the University move on.
Do you think its serves any purpose to keep discussing this crap?
It's time to move on. There are no dark, secret motives or a shadow conspiracy.
Yes, it's a high profile incident. QB at LSU s a high profile position. LSU football is of great importance in Baton Rouge.
Deal with it.
Let the process play out and let the rest of the team, the program and the University move on.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:29 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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Put it this way. If you throw a McDonalds cup out the window and get a littering ticket and decide to take it to trial. The officer can collect that cup, get a search warrant to obtain a buccal swab from you for comparison and send these to the crime lab for analysis.
That being said, would any officer do that? Most likely not. When it gets to the crime lab it will have a small synopsis of the offense. This being a very minor offense, it would get pushed to the bottom of the pile. Realistically, the DA would plead it down to avoid all the wasted time.
Bottom line, yes its used if possible and necessary to close a case one way or another
I asked what the standard procedure was. Not whether it was possible or not. Of course it is possible.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:32 pm to guttata
yes, you are the only one who thinks it is strange that BR police used science to do their jobs.
its a high profile case and messing it up would bring down the wrath of Khan on the BR police, since its the LSU QB we are talking about here.
Therefore, they are trying their best to do their jobs well.
If you were on the BR police and you could take DNA evidence in this case, would you not take it? if not, why not?
its a high profile case and messing it up would bring down the wrath of Khan on the BR police, since its the LSU QB we are talking about here.
Therefore, they are trying their best to do their jobs well.
If you were on the BR police and you could take DNA evidence in this case, would you not take it? if not, why not?
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:35 pm to Tiger Authority
Ok then, there is no uniform s.o.p. for DNA that I am aware of.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:36 pm to ottothewise
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These tests run anywhere from $500 to $1,000 per test. At 98 shoes this would have cost anywhere from $49,000 to $98,000. There is no way they ran a DNA test on each individual shoe.
It costs a person 500 dollars to see if their really a baby daddy. It does not costs the police anywhere near this much to do dna tests with their own labs, their own equipment and their own employees, and the results take no more than 48 hours.
This has become a very painless procedure and is used in WAY more cases than you think. The only difference from this case and any other, as ive said from the beginning, is the media attention. THATS IT
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:36 pm to ottothewise
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yes, you are the only one who thinks it is strange that BR police used science to do their jobs.
its a high profile case and messing it up would bring down the wrath of Khan on the BR police, since its the LSU QB we are talking about here.
Therefore, they are trying their best to do their jobs well.
If you were on the BR police and you could take DNA evidence in this case, would you not take it? if not, why not?
But that's not the question. Is this standard for this charge? It shouldn't be different because of the persons involved.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:36 pm to guttata
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guttata
Am I the only one who finds it strange that they took JJ's DNA...
If they find blood on JJ, they wanted to make sure it was the victims and not his own.
That makes no sense. If it's not the victims dna, then what does it matter?
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:37 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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Ok then, there is no uniform s.o.p. for DNA that I am aware of.
That's my only question so ok.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:40 pm to HeadChange
Don't know this, but wouldn't they just luminol the shoes, and which ever one showed blood, they'd test. Couldn't that cut down the process/numbers?
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