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Posted on 8/22/13 at 3:14 pm to
Posted by TJG210
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 3:14 pm to
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Playing at night means the world to us. No one else in the conference cares.


Same arguement can be used against A&M wanting to play on Thanksgiving.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 3:14 pm to
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I can bitch/moan/gripe when I feel that our athletic director isn't acting in the best interest of the university/fans.


How do you know the Alleva isn't acting in the best interests of the university of fans? Is it because he isn't doing EXACTLY what you personally would prefer? Because that sounds more like he is not acting in your best interests.

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we consistently get bent over by the league office and other schools is getting a little frustrating.

Our fans are so laughable sometimes
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 3:17 pm to
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Same arguement can be used against A&M wanting to play on Thanksgiving.


Except the other SEC members are highly motivated, both implicitly and explicitly, to not let LSU have night home games.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 3:17 pm to
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However, LSU has an edge on both given that our byes are before Bama and A&M, the 2 most important games of the season


Jesus dude, we don't have an edge because they both have byes before they play us. We don't have some kind of advantage over them in those games. How is this so hard to understand?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 3:20 pm to
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we consistently get bent over by the league office and other schools is getting a little frustrating


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Our fans are so laughable sometimes


What is so laughable about that? When was the last time things went our way? Give me an example.

Chicken Bowl/Bridge Schedules/Thanksgiving Day

Those are mine off the top of my head.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 3:20 pm to
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We don't have some kind of advantage over them in those games.


I don't know if "edge" or "advantage" is the right word. I wouldn't say these bye weeks give us an advantage over the opponents we play the following week.

However, you can't deny the fact that the two bye weeks are in the best possible spot for US and OUR schedule.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 3:23 pm to
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However, you can't deny the fact that the two bye weeks are in the best possible spot for US and OUR schedule.


Sure it is. But it's not going to help us win the West when Bama and A&M are on an even playing field with us.

Why do people bring up the bye week when I say we got screwed with the Thanksgiving Day game? So our choices were to get screwed or get screwed harder? Is that what you're saying?
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 3:24 pm to
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How is this so hard to understand?


Apparently you lack the basic ability to understand the very simple concept that it is more advantageous for a team to have bye weeks before the 2 biggest games of the year rather than having 1 before 1 of your 2 toughest games of the year and another against a middling opponent.

You are correct in that we don't have an advantage in those particular games as both teams have a bye week agsinst us so both will have the extra week to prepare for us as well. However, I don't understand how you can't understand that as an overall schedule it is more advantageous and a slightly easier path to the National Championship game to have byes before the 2 most difficult games of the year, while the other top teams in the division do not. There is no arguing that.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 3:25 pm to
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Why do people bring up the bye week when I say we got screwed with the Thanksgiving Day game?


Please explain how playing on Thanksgiving screws the team in any way. Sure, it might be a slight nuiscance for a few fans, but I don't see how this is "screwing" our team in any way. It's one day earlier than we normally would play and we have an entire week off before.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 3:26 pm to
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Thanksgiving Day


How does this mean that we got bent over by the league office? We have to play a game on Thanksgiving. Some of our entitled fans don't like it because they have Thanksgiving plans, but how does that mean the university got bent over by the league office? That is laughable.
Posted by EarthwormJim
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 3:26 pm to
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Why do people bring up the bye week when I say we got screwed with the Thanksgiving Day game? So our choices were to get screwed or get screwed harder? Is that what you're saying?


Because we didn't get screwed. You might feel screwed because it's harder for you to watch the game, but the football team did not get screwed.

And you are incredibly dense if you don't see how bye weeks before your 2 most important games is advantageous.

When you look at the equality of the overall schedules of each team, LSU's bye weeks are the most desireable.
Posted by danman6336
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 3:29 pm to
I like us playing them on Thanksgiving for away games

::ducks::
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 3:31 pm to
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However, I don't understand how you can't understand that as an overall schedule it is more advantageous and a slightly easier path to the National Championship game to have byes before the 2 most difficult games of the year, while the other top teams in the division do not.


Because either A&M or Bama has to lose to in their game against each other. Neither have a bye week before hand and still one of them has to lose. If they both had a bye week before each other one of them would still have to lose.

Obviously it's nice that we have a bye week before both A&M and Bama, but that does not give us any advantage over them in the hunt for an SEC West title. This bye week was espoused as a little perk we got because of the Thanksgiving game and it's not. Once again, if Alleva had to fight for this then he is a sucker. Apparently our options were to either be screwed or really screwed by the SEC.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 3:33 pm to
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Because either A&M or Bama has to lose to in their game against each other. Neither have a bye week before hand and still one of them has to lose.


Correct, but if I am an A&M fan, I am thinking to myself that LSU has an easier schedule than we do because they get bye weeks before us and Bama. We don't have a bye week before Bama.

If I am a Bama fan, I am thinking to myself that LSU has an easier schedule than we do because they get bye weeks before us and A&M. We don't have a bye week before A&M.

Compared to each other, yes they are on equal footing. Compared to us, they are not.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 3:33 pm to
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And you are incredibly dense if you don't see how bye weeks before your 2 most important games is advantageous.


It's not any more advantageous than A&M or Bama's.

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When you look at the equality of the overall schedules of each team, LSU's bye weeks are the most desireable.


They are all exactly even. At least between A&M, Bama, and LSU.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 3:34 pm to
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Obviously it's nice that we have a bye week before both A&M and Bama, but that does not give us any advantage over them in the hunt for an SEC West title.


It makes our schedule as manageable as possible. This is an advantage. It's not like we're allowed to take a bye week away from someone. Again, its back to the age-old question - What exactly do you want?

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This bye week was espoused as a little perk we got because of the Thanksgiving game and it's not.


It's not necessarily a "perk" as you put it. It minimizes and neutralizes any possible negatives that could come out of playing on a Thursday.

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Once again, if Alleva had to fight for this then he is a sucker.


He did his job. Jesus, dude. Should we fire him for doing his job?

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Apparently our options were to either be screwed or really screwed by the SEC.


Once again - How exactly were we screwed?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 3:36 pm to
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Correct, but if I am an A&M fan, I am thinking to myself that LSU has an easier schedule than we do because they get bye weeks before us and Bama. We don't have a bye week before Bama.


And I'm also thinking to myself, well, at least we also have a bye before LSU and Bama doesn't have one before us either.

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If I am a Bama fan, I am thinking to myself that LSU has an easier schedule than we do because they get bye weeks before us and A&M. We don't have a bye week before A&M.


And I'm also thinking to myself, well, at least we also have a bye week before LSU and A&M doesn't have one before us either.
This post was edited on 8/22/13 at 3:37 pm
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 3:37 pm to
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It's not any more advantageous than A&M or Bama's


It is without a doubt more favorable than either one.

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They are all exactly even. At least between A&M, Bama, and LSU


No they aren't. You can't be this stupid to think a bye before Auburn is the same as a bye before Alabama or A&M.

Bye week placement in a schedule matters, and LSU got the best deal in that department.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 3:37 pm to
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And I'm also thinking to myself, well, at least we also have a bye before LSU and Bama doesn't have one before us either.


Correct, giving LSU a slight nod in terms of scheduling over me.

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And I'm also thinking, well, at least we also have a bye week before LSU and A&M doesn't have one before us either.


Correct, giving LSU a slight nod in terms of scheduling over me.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 3:42 pm to
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And I'm also thinking to myself, well, at least we also have a bye before LSU and Bama doesn't have one before us either.

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And I'm also thinking to myself, well, at least we also have a bye week before LSU and A&M doesn't have one before us either.


You basically imply in these comments that you realize an A&M and Bama fan would think we have a slightly easier schedule because of our 2 byes when you say they would also think to themselves, "well at least we have a bye...". That 100% implies that a Bama and A&M fan would think, well we are have the same schedule difficulty as A&M and Bama respectively, but it still isn't quite as nice as LSU with byes before both of us.
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