re: All we need is good QB play right?

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I included them just to show that we were worse against normal teams with Jefferson

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Except FACTS prove you wrong. Our offense in Nov(against 2 top 3 teams) was better than our offense in Oct (didn't play any ranked teams).
Are you under the impression that it's my opinion that our offense was better in Nov than any other month, because that's not my opinion. IT'S AN UNDENIABLE FACT WITH STATS TO BACK IT UP

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guess 7.4 is better than 7.8 now. Good point!

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But it's not a huge gap like you said. There wasn't a huge drop off in passing once JJ became the starter.

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said that Jordan Jefferson didn't have an effect on the added rushing yards against Arkansas, 

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He had 53 yards,on 7.6 ypc and a rushing td against arky.

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Jefferson had nothing to do with the fact that our offense was better in November. Our running backs went off for an average of 300 yards a game and our passing yards dropped substantially with Jefferson under center.

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Again our passing success didn't drop substantially only our pass attempts. Lee had 7.8 yards per pass and JJ was 7.4 yards per pass. In no way is that substantial.
Again, JJ most definitely helped our run game. When JJ was in the game the defense couldn't crash down to the rb because they had to account for JJ keeping the ball.amd running. When JLEE was in the game the defenses knew that once JLEE showed that he was gonna hand the ball off they could just run to the rb because JLEE was no threat to run at all. People that have football knowledge know that a qb who can run helps your run game even if he doesn't run the ball.

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our total offense went up!!!!!!" isn't a sound argument when we're talking about quarterbacks and passing yard

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You clearly don't understand anything about football. Total passing yards is skewed by passing attempts. Yards per pass is a pure stat because it isn't skewed by anything. JLEE and JJ having close yards per pass numbers shows you that the reason our passing TOTALS in Nov went down was because of pass attempts.

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Jarrett Lee attempted 20+ passed 7 times in 2011, Jordan Jefferson did it once. If that's not an increased emphasis on rushing, I'd like to know your definition. 

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EXACTLY. You can tell which posters don't have football knowledge because they use totals to measure an offense's or defense's success.
They look at totals and see a drop off and they don't realize that the only reason for the huge drop off is because of attempts. They don't realize that if JJ had attempted as many passes as JLEE did he would've had 1200 yards passing
And the difference between JJ and JLEE total passing yardage was 70 yards.
JLee- 1306 passing yards
JJ-1235 passing yards.


Hopefully he'll understand that our passing success didn't drop substantially once JJ became the starter, only our passing attempts dropped off.

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You mean we rushed for more yards with a mobile QB

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Should we post JJ's rushing stats?

You won't be pleased...

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They don't realize that if JJ had attempted as many passes as JLEE did he would've had 1200 yards passing

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He didn't get the attempts because he was awful.

We won't even talk about the fumbles...

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you actually this stupid or are you messing with me/trolling me?...the shite you just said has been addressed by 4 different people as "undeniably" false and insignificant when talking about Jordan Jefferson and Jarrett Lee.

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And you were all wrong. Our Nov offense ( PLAYED 2 TOP 3 TEAMS) was better than our Oct offense( didn't play any ranked teams).
November was ,by far, our most difficult month. We played 2 top 3 teams.

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Yeah JJ only holds the single season qb rushing record at lsu and the career qb rushing record at lsu.

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And Lee holds the record for longest steak without an INT

JJ was far worse than Lee.

30 yds total offense against Georgia. A single digit QB rating.

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You said we didn't play any RANKED teams in October and you were wrong.......... Sorry Charlie...

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We didnt. None of the teams we played in oct were ranked at the end of the year. Only an idiot would use middle of the season rankings.

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But it's not a huge gap like you said. There wasn't a huge drop off in passing once JJ became the starter.

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Please quote where I claimed that there was a "huge gap". I said that there's a clear gap, which there is.

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He had 53 yards,on 7.6 ypc and a rushing td against arky.

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Holy shite you have the weirdest reading comprehension of any person I've ever talked to. You understand that you're arguing that our total offense being so high was a result of Jordan Jefferson when we rushed for 930 yards in that 3 game stretch and he only accounted for 99 of those AND he passed for 200 fewer yards per month than Lee did in September and October? Congrats on him rushing for 53 whole yards though, he's really a game changer with the feet

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Again, JJ most definitely helped our run game. When JJ was in the game the defense couldn't crash down to the rb because they had to account for JJ keeping the ball.amd running. When JLEE was in the game the defenses knew that once JLEE showed that he was gonna hand the ball off they could just run to the rb because JLEE was no threat to run at all. People that have football knowledge know that a qb who can run helps your run game even if he doesn't run the ball.

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Again, this is all based on you assuming that people were actually scared of Jefferson's running ability which they weren't

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Total passing yards is skewed by passing attempts. Yards per pass is a pure stat because it isn't skewed by anything

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Yea, and Jefferson was worse in both cases. What exactly is your point? You're acting like Jefferson had the better YPA. Again, just to drive the point home, Jefferson was worse in YPA and total yards so I don't even know why you're talking about it when you're trying to prove me wrong

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JLEE and JJ having close yards per pass numbers shows you that the reason our passing TOTALS in Nov went down was because of pass attempts.

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So you're saying that if he would've just gotten more attempts at 7.4 YPA then he would've been better than Lee who had 7.8 YPA? Solid logic there bud. But really, keep telling me that I'm the one who doesn't know anything about football when you're clueless enough to defend the worst LSU QB of the modern era

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Only an idiot would use middle of the season rankings.

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FACTS are FACTS....Both teams were rated when we played them.... So I guess the WVA and Miss st. games meant nothing as well.........

Ok then...in 2010 LSU started the season as #21 in the polls... But yet climbed in the rankings up to #9 by beating [When they played] a #18 team in UNC, A #22 team in WVA,and A#14 team in FLA...ALL FINISHED UNRANKED. So should we say those victories over then ranked teams should NOT have helped LSU rise in the polls????? By your logic those games should NOT have as much bearing on how good a team is IF they finish unranked..Correct?????